Mulling It Over - with Brandon Mull
Oct 6, 2026 · 45 min · 9 segments
In this episode, Brandon Mull and Jason Conforto talk about the flow state, those moments when creativity takes over and the work seems to flow naturally. They discuss how they get into flow, what can…
Right? And when you are, when you are in a state where you are really in the now and you're really just reacting and you're really just doing it, and you're not thinking about what you're doing, almost there's not time to think about what you're doing or reason to think about what you're doing 'cause you're, you're lost in doing it successfully.
And, and so examples would be if I am reading a book and I'm very conscious of the words I'm reading and it, and it's a little bit of a chore and it's a little bit-
Versus I'm in a scene and it is coming to life for me, and, and I almost forget that I'm reading words-
... and I'm, I'm almost not conscious of the words or that I'm not as conscious that I'm listening to words if I'm listening to an audiobook, right? Like, like rather than being conscious of listening to the words, I am just experiencing the story.
And when I'm in sort of a flow state or a reading trance, um, when I'm reading, I lose track of time.
It's like I am experiencing it rather than reading it, and that is one example of a flow state.
It's, it's an example I've never thought of before 'cause when I think about being in the zone and doing things, like the first thing that comes to mind is like sports, right? Seeing an athlete at the-
the top of their game effortlessly doing things that the human body shouldn't be able to do at a pace that, that shouldn't be able to, uh, to happen.
But, but the thing I like about reading as an example is it seems to be more, I, I don't wanna call it passive because you're actively reading, right?
Right? And when you are, when you are in a state where you are really in the now and you're really just reacting and you're really just doing it, and you're not thinking about what you're doing, almost there's not time to think about what you're doing or reason to think about what you're doing 'cause you're, you're lost in doing it successfully.
And, and so examples would be if I am reading a book and I'm very conscious of the words I'm reading and it, and it's a little bit of a chore and it's a little bit-
Versus I'm in a scene and it is coming to life for me, and, and I almost forget that I'm reading words-
... and I'm, I'm almost not conscious of the words or that I'm not as conscious that I'm listening to words if I'm listening to an audiobook, right? Like, like rather than being conscious of listening to the words, I am just experiencing the story.
And when I'm in sort of a flow state or a reading trance, um, when I'm reading, I lose track of time.
It's like I am experiencing it rather than reading it, and that is one example of a flow state.
It's, it's an example I've never thought of before 'cause when I think about being in the zone and doing things, like the first thing that comes to mind is like sports, right? Seeing an athlete at the-
the top of their game effortlessly doing things that the human body shouldn't be able to do at a pace that, that shouldn't be able to, uh, to happen.
But, but the thing I like about reading as an example is it seems to be more, I, I don't wanna call it passive because you're actively reading, right?
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