Jul 9, 2026 · 51 min · 12 segments
**Making the Impossible Possible: A Conversation with Colleen Dube, CEO of NALA** What does literacy have to do with health, employment, confidence, family life, social inclusion and opportunity? As…
Colleen DubeGuest
Róisín EganHost
And obviously, you know, NALA and adult literacy for life work so closely together.

I think, you know, as we were kind of talking that every day is a learning day.

So I think for me and for all of us who were involved in developing that strategy, it was about maybe changing the conversation and increasing the understanding of what literacy is.

It isn't just maybe individuals who don't have basic reading, writing, maths, digital literacy.

It is that, but it's that wider piece as well in terms of those other skills we need to engage in life at the moment.

And we didn't know it at the time when we were developing the strategy because we didn't have up-to-date data.


So we know from the adult literacy survey that was done now in 2024, that roughly one in five adults don't have basic literacy skills.

That is kind of shocking in a developed country like Ireland that we're talking about maybe 750,000 adults.

about to say that, yeah, around 700, 750,000 adults that are not confident in their ability to engage in society through literacy.

Well, I'd qualify that a little bit to say, and I think this is one of the maybe challenges and why it's important and why the whole of society approach is important.

We can look at the statistics and 750,000 people might have unmet literacy needs, 850,000 have unmet numeracy or maths needs.

But the reality is a lot of those people are getting on with their daily lives.

And obviously, you know, NALA and adult literacy for life work so closely together.

I think, you know, as we were kind of talking that every day is a learning day.

So I think for me and for all of us who were involved in developing that strategy, it was about maybe changing the conversation and increasing the understanding of what literacy is.

It isn't just maybe individuals who don't have basic reading, writing, maths, digital literacy.

It is that, but it's that wider piece as well in terms of those other skills we need to engage in life at the moment.

And we didn't know it at the time when we were developing the strategy because we didn't have up-to-date data.


So we know from the adult literacy survey that was done now in 2024, that roughly one in five adults don't have basic literacy skills.

That is kind of shocking in a developed country like Ireland that we're talking about maybe 750,000 adults.

about to say that, yeah, around 700, 750,000 adults that are not confident in their ability to engage in society through literacy.

Well, I'd qualify that a little bit to say, and I think this is one of the maybe challenges and why it's important and why the whole of society approach is important.

We can look at the statistics and 750,000 people might have unmet literacy needs, 850,000 have unmet numeracy or maths needs.

But the reality is a lot of those people are getting on with their daily lives.
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