May 25, 2026 · 53 min · 10 segments
Women can't multitask. We're just asked to do more work. Professor Leah Ruppanner is a sociologist, researcher, and author of Drained, a book that puts data behind what so many women have been told is…
Leah RuppannerGuestNickyHost
Th- I have, like, 8 million things [laughs] to say to you in response to this.
[laughs]

Um, I think it's interesting that comment you said, like, "I don't want anyone to see," or, "I don't, I feel like if I don't do everything right, it feels like there's something w-"
I'm failing.
Mm.

And I think part of that too is we've trained women to feel like they are solely responsible for the family, for making sure their kids, no matter what's going on in their children's lives, the shifts, the ebbs, the flow, they are responsible for making sure everything is working.
Mm-hmm.

Not, like, you're failing, but, like, you don't have a maternal instinct, and you are a bad person.

I talk a lot about how do we use sociology as our superpower to see the way in which these norms set you up for failure.

Like, you are not failing as a parent if your children do bad things or do good things, in part because they're own individual kids, right?
Yeah.

But we've basically told moms, like, they're the CEO of all of it, and if they don't do it right, if they don't get it perfect, then they are actually failing.

Failing themselves, failing their children, failing our future, and that is so much pressure.
Yeah.

So I wanted to say, like, first off, I have a section in my book where I talk about this.
Yeah.

And we need to stop some of that, because in no other job do we ask people to be in charge of all of it and then tell them, "Well, you didn't do a good job." [laughs]
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

"And also don't take a break, and feel guilty about all of this, and you should just feel miserable in the whole experience." It's such a disservice to all of us.

Th- I have, like, 8 million things [laughs] to say to you in response to this.
[laughs]

Um, I think it's interesting that comment you said, like, "I don't want anyone to see," or, "I don't, I feel like if I don't do everything right, it feels like there's something w-"
I'm failing.
Mm.

And I think part of that too is we've trained women to feel like they are solely responsible for the family, for making sure their kids, no matter what's going on in their children's lives, the shifts, the ebbs, the flow, they are responsible for making sure everything is working.
Mm-hmm.

Not, like, you're failing, but, like, you don't have a maternal instinct, and you are a bad person.

I talk a lot about how do we use sociology as our superpower to see the way in which these norms set you up for failure.

Like, you are not failing as a parent if your children do bad things or do good things, in part because they're own individual kids, right?
Yeah.

But we've basically told moms, like, they're the CEO of all of it, and if they don't do it right, if they don't get it perfect, then they are actually failing.

Failing themselves, failing their children, failing our future, and that is so much pressure.
Yeah.

So I wanted to say, like, first off, I have a section in my book where I talk about this.
Yeah.

And we need to stop some of that, because in no other job do we ask people to be in charge of all of it and then tell them, "Well, you didn't do a good job." [laughs]
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

"And also don't take a break, and feel guilty about all of this, and you should just feel miserable in the whole experience." It's such a disservice to all of us.
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