Aug 26, 2026 · 33 min · 10 segments
*A new form of relationship estrangement is afoot. Whereas, in the past, relationships tended to rupture over issues like abuse, today, people are increasingly estranged because of politics.* On…
Noelle MeringGuest
Todd PruittHost
Carl TruemanHost
You know, it's int- one, one of the things I've, I've been thinking about, um, as, as we've talked about this is, um, how what you're writing about here and what we're witnessing in, in this no contact phenomena, how, uh, it, it, it seems to, to have risen right along with, um, Carl, so much of your work in dealing with the, the, the, the transgendered movement, uh, the, the, the h- how we're navigating who I am.
I remember, I remember there being prominent homosexual activists back in the '80s when I was in high school who would specifically say, "Homosexuality is not who I am.
It's just this one area of my life." In other words, some of them were jealous to say, you know, "I'm not defined by this." Well, that's all changed now.
And so if you, if you grow up in a family that's, that are traditional historic Christians, um, the narrative can very easily now become, "My parents, you know, deadnamed me," or, "My parents did not affirm who I, you know, who I am." I was, I was watching a video just the other day that somebody sent me, and, uh, it was from a, a, a training session in a, uh, school of, of education, and the, the person doing the presentation was clearly a transgender person.
He was a man presenting w- with female address, with female dress, and his specialty was to train teachers, particularly teachers of, of preschool, kindergarten, the younger ages- Um, and he was telling them this particular session that the challenge they're gonna have as caregivers for young kids in school is that parents are the problem.
Parents are always the problem, and how are we gonna get around the parents? And so if, if that mindset is adopted by our youngest kids' teachers, how can it not end up being adopted by our kids? So it seems to be built within the very fabric of, of, of what a lot of our kids are, are trained under.
There are some, um, even of the queer theory literature that I quote in the book, uh, d- addressing that pretty explicitly, that parents will be sort of the issue to get around here in, in so far as the goal is to introduce kids to new alternative forms of kinship.
Um, and you know, I s- a colleague of Carl's mind actually just sent me this interesting article about the workplace.
And most employers, you know, they val- the things they value are hardworking and buil- a willingness to learn and achievement.
And the majority of Gen Z, their top values are first and foremost self-care, self-expression-
You know, it's int- one, one of the things I've, I've been thinking about, um, as, as we've talked about this is, um, how what you're writing about here and what we're witnessing in, in this no contact phenomena, how, uh, it, it, it seems to, to have risen right along with, um, Carl, so much of your work in dealing with the, the, the, the transgendered movement, uh, the, the, the h- how we're navigating who I am.
I remember, I remember there being prominent homosexual activists back in the '80s when I was in high school who would specifically say, "Homosexuality is not who I am.
It's just this one area of my life." In other words, some of them were jealous to say, you know, "I'm not defined by this." Well, that's all changed now.
And so if you, if you grow up in a family that's, that are traditional historic Christians, um, the narrative can very easily now become, "My parents, you know, deadnamed me," or, "My parents did not affirm who I, you know, who I am." I was, I was watching a video just the other day that somebody sent me, and, uh, it was from a, a, a training session in a, uh, school of, of education, and the, the person doing the presentation was clearly a transgender person.
He was a man presenting w- with female address, with female dress, and his specialty was to train teachers, particularly teachers of, of preschool, kindergarten, the younger ages- Um, and he was telling them this particular session that the challenge they're gonna have as caregivers for young kids in school is that parents are the problem.
Parents are always the problem, and how are we gonna get around the parents? And so if, if that mindset is adopted by our youngest kids' teachers, how can it not end up being adopted by our kids? So it seems to be built within the very fabric of, of, of what a lot of our kids are, are trained under.
There are some, um, even of the queer theory literature that I quote in the book, uh, d- addressing that pretty explicitly, that parents will be sort of the issue to get around here in, in so far as the goal is to introduce kids to new alternative forms of kinship.
Um, and you know, I s- a colleague of Carl's mind actually just sent me this interesting article about the workplace.
And most employers, you know, they val- the things they value are hardworking and buil- a willingness to learn and achievement.
And the majority of Gen Z, their top values are first and foremost self-care, self-expression-
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