Marriage Rehab: Exposing Narcissistic & Emotional Abuse
May 16, 2026 · 41 min · 10 segments
What happens when faith is used to control instead of heal? In this Marriage Rehab episode, Dr. David Hawkins and Dr. John Hudson unpack spiritual abuse in marriage—how scripture can be twisted into…
David HawkinsHostJohn HudsonGuest... we deal with day in and day out, and we see the structure, not the institution, but the structure of thinking is where the problem is.
And so we'll go through this in a minute, but, you know, I've been involved in lay ministry for 35, 40 years, and 40 years plus.
And so that's, that's our approach here to talk about this very candidly, and we're open to feedback.
But the genesis of this meeting was a conversation that we recently had at the American Association of Christian Counselors.
We're sitting around talking to different people there, and they're encountering the same thing.
... we thought it was important to bring it to the forefront through this conversation, and I'm sure we'll, we'll get some feedback on that.
We started with the idea where gaslighting becomes spiritual manipulation, and you wrote an article that was published by AACC.
So if, if people haven't seen that article, maybe we can share the link for that after this.
But the foundation of that is simply this: It's a misunderstanding of roles and responsibilities, equal shares in the marriage, if you wanna put it that way.
So, Dr. Hawkins, I'd like to hear your perspective on what you've encountered, and then we'll...
... we deal with day in and day out, and we see the structure, not the institution, but the structure of thinking is where the problem is.
And so we'll go through this in a minute, but, you know, I've been involved in lay ministry for 35, 40 years, and 40 years plus.
And so that's, that's our approach here to talk about this very candidly, and we're open to feedback.
But the genesis of this meeting was a conversation that we recently had at the American Association of Christian Counselors.
We're sitting around talking to different people there, and they're encountering the same thing.
... we thought it was important to bring it to the forefront through this conversation, and I'm sure we'll, we'll get some feedback on that.
We started with the idea where gaslighting becomes spiritual manipulation, and you wrote an article that was published by AACC.
So if, if people haven't seen that article, maybe we can share the link for that after this.
But the foundation of that is simply this: It's a misunderstanding of roles and responsibilities, equal shares in the marriage, if you wanna put it that way.
So, Dr. Hawkins, I'd like to hear your perspective on what you've encountered, and then we'll...
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