Sep 28, 2026 · 36 min · 11 segments
Most organizations don't have a talent shortage. They have a talent visibility problem. In this episode, Marie Gill, CEO and Co-Founder of Aetheon, shares with Dan Albaum how leaders can learn to…
Marie GillGuest
Dan AlbaumHost
Yeah, because I think one of the tendencies that I see and I see in myself even is this gravitational pull to want to just stick with a comfort zone.
You know, when we get to a point of high competency and we just think things are rolling and it's smooth and there isn't a lot of stress and disruption.
And so what you're saying is embrace the idea of challenging yourself and to kind of push outside that comfort zone.
I know many of us don't necessarily like change, but I often found myself breaking something just so I could go in and challenge myself on fixing it.
So yeah, I just think that there's a lot of amazing talent and skills and competency around us.
And sometimes until you get forced with those real hairy situations, you don't actually see people for who they really are.
Something that comes into that, probably you've seen this, is just the value of having this natural curiosity, right? So if you have that motivation to want to learn, then it opens the door for you to be able to grow and learn.
I think that's the biggest challenge I have is that I have to push every single corner.
And I'm constantly turning over rocks just to see what's growing underneath them.
And I just think that as I've moved forward, this insatiable curiosity that I have is something that's become quite a powerful asset.
And so I've learned how to harness that and I've learned how to use that for benefiting others around me.
And it's almost like that's a little bit contagious, too, because if you as a senior leader in an organization and you see that behavior of them showing genuine curiosity and asking the questions, it seems like there's a ripple effect.
Yeah, because I think one of the tendencies that I see and I see in myself even is this gravitational pull to want to just stick with a comfort zone.
You know, when we get to a point of high competency and we just think things are rolling and it's smooth and there isn't a lot of stress and disruption.
And so what you're saying is embrace the idea of challenging yourself and to kind of push outside that comfort zone.
I know many of us don't necessarily like change, but I often found myself breaking something just so I could go in and challenge myself on fixing it.
So yeah, I just think that there's a lot of amazing talent and skills and competency around us.
And sometimes until you get forced with those real hairy situations, you don't actually see people for who they really are.
Something that comes into that, probably you've seen this, is just the value of having this natural curiosity, right? So if you have that motivation to want to learn, then it opens the door for you to be able to grow and learn.
I think that's the biggest challenge I have is that I have to push every single corner.
And I'm constantly turning over rocks just to see what's growing underneath them.
And I just think that as I've moved forward, this insatiable curiosity that I have is something that's become quite a powerful asset.
And so I've learned how to harness that and I've learned how to use that for benefiting others around me.
And it's almost like that's a little bit contagious, too, because if you as a senior leader in an organization and you see that behavior of them showing genuine curiosity and asking the questions, it seems like there's a ripple effect.
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