Geoffrey TumlinHost
Cindi BaldiHost
Yeah, I mean, I got to go all the way back to one of our first consulting projects.

And we brought up to the CEO like, hey, some of these things you're hiring us for, I think that it might be- A

I remember the CEO did one of these like, he's like, hey, what else you got? And it was the first time that I was like, oh- We're not even going to touch this person.

And this company we stayed in contact with, and she stayed for like 11 more years until a natural retirement day and got a cake, got a big send-off.

And the problems, many of the problems that they were paying us to fix went away as soon as they were able to replace this person.

And I'll never forget, as soon as I brought her up, the CEO put his hands up and was like, hey, we're not going to talk about this.

in the work that we do, likable people who are struggling get chance after chance after chance and aren't even given the feedback that they need in many cases to have a chance to rectify

Yeah, in the case that you're talking about, that person had fallen behind technologically and was never going to catch up.

Yeah, I mean, I got to go all the way back to one of our first consulting projects.

And we brought up to the CEO like, hey, some of these things you're hiring us for, I think that it might be- A

I remember the CEO did one of these like, he's like, hey, what else you got? And it was the first time that I was like, oh- We're not even going to touch this person.

And this company we stayed in contact with, and she stayed for like 11 more years until a natural retirement day and got a cake, got a big send-off.

And the problems, many of the problems that they were paying us to fix went away as soon as they were able to replace this person.

And I'll never forget, as soon as I brought her up, the CEO put his hands up and was like, hey, we're not going to talk about this.

in the work that we do, likable people who are struggling get chance after chance after chance and aren't even given the feedback that they need in many cases to have a chance to rectify

Yeah, in the case that you're talking about, that person had fallen behind technologically and was never going to catch up.
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