Sep 6, 2026 · 40 min · 18 segments
In this deeply personal episode, Ashley shares her experience with an MLD therapist that left her questioning her own discomfort—and why she initially struggled to speak up. Together, Ashley and Shawn…
Ashley FisherHost
Shawn BigbyHost
Yeah, basically over the summer, I started seeing a new MLD therapist who was a man.

And going into that situation, I was a little nervous just because I typically, anyone that I've ever gotten a massage from has been female.

There are not a whole lot of people in my hometown that know and understand and are like licensed to do manual lymphatic drainage.

So you go where you have resources, right? And I talk a little bit about this in the reel that I put up.

The first thing he says to me is, you are in a very vulnerable situation right now.

When you first meet him, you think, oh, this is like for docile, almost like one of the girls type of a guy, if that makes sense.

And my discernment was saying, you are aware that you come across that way and you're hiding behind that.

Yeah, basically over the summer, I started seeing a new MLD therapist who was a man.

And going into that situation, I was a little nervous just because I typically, anyone that I've ever gotten a massage from has been female.

There are not a whole lot of people in my hometown that know and understand and are like licensed to do manual lymphatic drainage.

So you go where you have resources, right? And I talk a little bit about this in the reel that I put up.

The first thing he says to me is, you are in a very vulnerable situation right now.

When you first meet him, you think, oh, this is like for docile, almost like one of the girls type of a guy, if that makes sense.

And my discernment was saying, you are aware that you come across that way and you're hiding behind that.
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