Robert MartinGuestMichael BoothHostGive, give-- What is the correct mix then? What's your, what's Beta Mobility's vision for the proportions of journeys on bikes, by foot, public transport?

The way I generally try and talk about it is through a concept called the mobility diet.

When we talk about this, what is that mix, right? Uh, people go pro-car, anti-car, or they're pro-bicycle, or they're pro public transport, and no one can really come together and talk about it.

Whereas what we actually find, uh, in cities and in people's everyday lives is that there's this mix of different things.

People walk, people cycle, uh, people take the car, and it's somewhat like a diet.

But we can inherently understand that if we only ate burgers, so if we only drove cars, that would be really bad for us.

So the mobility diet is an exercise of trying to understand, do we have maybe green and more healthy options like walking and cycling? And then do we bring in things like cars, you know, the sweet treats, right?
But that's where you see the private car is, is the ice cream I had just before coming to the studio.

And, and this is why I try and discuss the mobility bi- uh, mix according to context.

So I'm not necessarily saying that someone who lives in a farm out in the country needs to walk and cycle everywhere.

So obviously, if there is a backbone of public transportation, a diet will look in a certain way.
Give, give-- What is the correct mix then? What's your, what's Beta Mobility's vision for the proportions of journeys on bikes, by foot, public transport?

The way I generally try and talk about it is through a concept called the mobility diet.

When we talk about this, what is that mix, right? Uh, people go pro-car, anti-car, or they're pro-bicycle, or they're pro public transport, and no one can really come together and talk about it.

Whereas what we actually find, uh, in cities and in people's everyday lives is that there's this mix of different things.

People walk, people cycle, uh, people take the car, and it's somewhat like a diet.

But we can inherently understand that if we only ate burgers, so if we only drove cars, that would be really bad for us.

So the mobility diet is an exercise of trying to understand, do we have maybe green and more healthy options like walking and cycling? And then do we bring in things like cars, you know, the sweet treats, right?
But that's where you see the private car is, is the ice cream I had just before coming to the studio.

And, and this is why I try and discuss the mobility bi- uh, mix according to context.

So I'm not necessarily saying that someone who lives in a farm out in the country needs to walk and cycle everywhere.

So obviously, if there is a backbone of public transportation, a diet will look in a certain way.
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