Sep 2, 2026 · 1 hr 5 min · 13 segments
**What if AI transformation isn't really a technology challenge at all?** Jess talks with OneDigital executives Mike Sullivan and Vinay Gidwaney about why they see AI as a talent, leadership, and…
Vinay GidwaneyGuestMike SullivanGuestJess AlmlieHostAnd I believe it's a change that's been needed in our profession for a long time.
Now, I believe this is a non-negotiable change that L&D needs to make, both for the future of our profession and our careers, but also for the benefit of the companies where we work and all the people who work inside them.
There is absolutely no way we can work in the way that Mike and Vinay suggest as transformation leaders without acting as strategic business partners.
And that means we show up as business leaders with learning and talent development expertise.
Instead, we are zoned in on what's best for the business first, on the problems the business is experiencing, on the improvements that are needed.
We walk into meetings thinking of ourselves as business leaders and acting as such.
They're always with us, but we don't pull them out until it's needed and appropriate.
So what does that mean we need to do? There are a number of things, but first and foremost, and most foundational, I believe, if we are going to show up as business leaders first, It is essential that we understand the business, that we have a robust business acumen, that we can talk the talk.
We understand how the business functions, what's most important, the challenges it's facing, and we become creative partners in problem solving and forward movement.
We then apply our expertise in equipping, enabling, and developing people and leading them through change to solve the biggest talent challenges like this one with AI.
If we are only creating content from here on out, we are severely limiting our potential and the business will suffer.
And it turns out, even as AI becomes more integrated into our organizations, talent experts are needed more than ever.
Talent experts who understand where the business is heading, what it's trying to accomplish.
And I believe it's a change that's been needed in our profession for a long time.
Now, I believe this is a non-negotiable change that L&D needs to make, both for the future of our profession and our careers, but also for the benefit of the companies where we work and all the people who work inside them.
There is absolutely no way we can work in the way that Mike and Vinay suggest as transformation leaders without acting as strategic business partners.
And that means we show up as business leaders with learning and talent development expertise.
Instead, we are zoned in on what's best for the business first, on the problems the business is experiencing, on the improvements that are needed.
We walk into meetings thinking of ourselves as business leaders and acting as such.
They're always with us, but we don't pull them out until it's needed and appropriate.
So what does that mean we need to do? There are a number of things, but first and foremost, and most foundational, I believe, if we are going to show up as business leaders first, It is essential that we understand the business, that we have a robust business acumen, that we can talk the talk.
We understand how the business functions, what's most important, the challenges it's facing, and we become creative partners in problem solving and forward movement.
We then apply our expertise in equipping, enabling, and developing people and leading them through change to solve the biggest talent challenges like this one with AI.
If we are only creating content from here on out, we are severely limiting our potential and the business will suffer.
And it turns out, even as AI becomes more integrated into our organizations, talent experts are needed more than ever.
Talent experts who understand where the business is heading, what it's trying to accomplish.
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