Lawyer Launcher - Behind the Bar
Jun 19, 2026 · 28 min · 10 segments
Welcome back to *Lawyer Launcher: Behind the Bar*. This week, we are doing something a little different. I recently had the lovely opportunity to be a guest on Claudio Klaus's podcast, *Studying Law…
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Susan Van DykeHost
Claudio KlausGuest
Thank you so much for taking the time to walk us through a little bit of your career.

And I find it fascinating all that you've done and the roles you've taken on as well.

I'm curious here, you know the audience of studying law around the world is very much early career professionals, is very much law students who are looking for optionality and knowing what they can do with their law degree.

And after all of these experiences you've had, I'm curious to hear what do you think law students and new lawyers are misunderstanding the most about how law firms actually operate?

If you only practice law, there's only a few positions, a few firms where you can be successful in only practice.

practicing law, where you don't need to concern yourself with clients, with relationships, with developing business, etc.

So understanding that law firms are a business, I think is one of the big ones.

Another one is that law students come in and they sometimes believe that others are responsible for feeding them work for the long term.

It keeps coming and they are filling plates and it's just, you know, the workflows.

So students and new lawyers really need to start concerning themselves with the long run, how they're going to develop work for themselves.

It then becomes, how do I develop the practice that I want for myself? And that's a whole other podcast in and of itself.

Thank you so much for taking the time to walk us through a little bit of your career.

And I find it fascinating all that you've done and the roles you've taken on as well.

I'm curious here, you know the audience of studying law around the world is very much early career professionals, is very much law students who are looking for optionality and knowing what they can do with their law degree.

And after all of these experiences you've had, I'm curious to hear what do you think law students and new lawyers are misunderstanding the most about how law firms actually operate?

If you only practice law, there's only a few positions, a few firms where you can be successful in only practice.

practicing law, where you don't need to concern yourself with clients, with relationships, with developing business, etc.

So understanding that law firms are a business, I think is one of the big ones.

Another one is that law students come in and they sometimes believe that others are responsible for feeding them work for the long term.

It keeps coming and they are filling plates and it's just, you know, the workflows.

So students and new lawyers really need to start concerning themselves with the long run, how they're going to develop work for themselves.

It then becomes, how do I develop the practice that I want for myself? And that's a whole other podcast in and of itself.
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