Sep 24, 2026 · 56 min · 16 segments
This week on the Labor & Energy Show w/JDoc & Krausey, Craig Montesano of American Waterways Operators joins us for Part 4 of our September EV Mandate & CRA Series, discussing California’s At-Berth…
So here's an interesting thought.
And again, this is a little off, uh, We're talking about our ports, right? What about the imports? Like, in other words, you know, we're putting all these requirements on our domestic industry,
What typically happens is we, you know, a lot of these extreme situations, they want to shut everything down.
Okay.
In America, shut our refineries down, shut all of our energy projects down.
Okay, if America went dark tomorrow, that's only 13% of the emissions on the planet.
We still do, I think, the best job on, you know, on the planet of leading standards.
And if the environment has done anything, they've contributed to those standards.
Okay.
We can, the Paris accord, they can do whatever they want, but who's going over there to actually, you know, see what's going on.
But my question to you is this,
that they go for, you know, once
people go out of business, what happens with the imports coming in?
So, like, you know, all the equipment in this room, your Samsung TV in the family room, you know, was brought to you in part by a safe tugboat assist of a large vessel from probably from the Pacific Rim, right? So if you have a decreased number of tugboats out there, right? If it takes longer for the deep draft vessels to actually get into port and unload their goods, all right? I mean, and added on top of that, if they're waiting at anchor to get into the port and they're being fined by California for the emissions that they're putting up in the air while their engines are still on, all of that is gonna have an effect, right? There are only so many costs that the operators of tugboats, of large vessels can absorb.
Craig, sorry about what I'm saying is, let me rephrase it, is that if our tugboats and all those things are impacted, now we've got imports coming in, okay? What happens in that situation when you've got a line like the 70s of ships and imports? How does that impact? And you don't have, obviously, if hypothetically speaking, some of our people decide to throw the ball in and go home because they can't afford it.
How does that impact the actual industry of imports coming in?
So here's an interesting thought.
And again, this is a little off, uh, We're talking about our ports, right? What about the imports? Like, in other words, you know, we're putting all these requirements on our domestic industry,
What typically happens is we, you know, a lot of these extreme situations, they want to shut everything down.
Okay.
In America, shut our refineries down, shut all of our energy projects down.
Okay, if America went dark tomorrow, that's only 13% of the emissions on the planet.
We still do, I think, the best job on, you know, on the planet of leading standards.
And if the environment has done anything, they've contributed to those standards.
Okay.
We can, the Paris accord, they can do whatever they want, but who's going over there to actually, you know, see what's going on.
But my question to you is this,
that they go for, you know, once
people go out of business, what happens with the imports coming in?
So, like, you know, all the equipment in this room, your Samsung TV in the family room, you know, was brought to you in part by a safe tugboat assist of a large vessel from probably from the Pacific Rim, right? So if you have a decreased number of tugboats out there, right? If it takes longer for the deep draft vessels to actually get into port and unload their goods, all right? I mean, and added on top of that, if they're waiting at anchor to get into the port and they're being fined by California for the emissions that they're putting up in the air while their engines are still on, all of that is gonna have an effect, right? There are only so many costs that the operators of tugboats, of large vessels can absorb.
Craig, sorry about what I'm saying is, let me rephrase it, is that if our tugboats and all those things are impacted, now we've got imports coming in, okay? What happens in that situation when you've got a line like the 70s of ships and imports? How does that impact? And you don't have, obviously, if hypothetically speaking, some of our people decide to throw the ball in and go home because they can't afford it.
How does that impact the actual industry of imports coming in?
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