Aug 3, 2026 · 42 min · 10 segments
The boys want to understand what more Siya Kolisi's super Springboks can do to win over South African-born and raised All Blacks supporters. . WhatsApp…
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It's their final head out before that first test against the All Blacks, 22nd of August at Ellis Park.

Left the rest behind with Tony Brown and a couple of other coaches, and he's saying is they'll be preparing for that first test, but a lot of these players will be involved in that first test match.

When you look at that 28, who are, do you think are the obvious ones to be in that first test match, 23 against the All Blacks?
I mean, we've, we've heard rumors that, uh, that, that Andre Esterhuizen, I almost said Grant Esterhuizen.
We heard rumors that Andre Esterhuizen, mate, is gonna be playing number eight, so, uh, I think, I think there's a bit of smoke and mirrors there.
I mean, if, if Manie Libbok is your starting fly half, it's basically a starting back line with all the, all the guys you know, Cheslin Kolbe, Kurt-Lee Arendse, Duahs, Kriel, the rest of them.
Uh, and then Malcolm Marx, uh, Ruan Nortje, and the starting back row of Paul de Villiers, uh, Pieter-Steph du Toit, and Jasper Wiese.
Um, but the makeup of that team, mate, if w- I mean, if we're talking about Andre at number eight, we may be talking about Andre at number seven.

What do you make of, uh, Rassie's comments this week about people are maybe too obsessed with the number on the back in the way the Springboks play? He's not talking about the modern game, he says, in the way they play, and specifically when he spoke about the makeup of the loose trio and the way we've traditionally played with two, two big loose forwards and a smaller one who forages to the ball.

Uh, you still got your lineout option, you still got your kick receive options, and you still got two potentially strong ball carriers.

W- He says the only thing they do is they really pack down at eight, and you can even change that around if you want to.


It's their final head out before that first test against the All Blacks, 22nd of August at Ellis Park.

Left the rest behind with Tony Brown and a couple of other coaches, and he's saying is they'll be preparing for that first test, but a lot of these players will be involved in that first test match.

When you look at that 28, who are, do you think are the obvious ones to be in that first test match, 23 against the All Blacks?
I mean, we've, we've heard rumors that, uh, that, that Andre Esterhuizen, I almost said Grant Esterhuizen.
We heard rumors that Andre Esterhuizen, mate, is gonna be playing number eight, so, uh, I think, I think there's a bit of smoke and mirrors there.
I mean, if, if Manie Libbok is your starting fly half, it's basically a starting back line with all the, all the guys you know, Cheslin Kolbe, Kurt-Lee Arendse, Duahs, Kriel, the rest of them.
Uh, and then Malcolm Marx, uh, Ruan Nortje, and the starting back row of Paul de Villiers, uh, Pieter-Steph du Toit, and Jasper Wiese.
Um, but the makeup of that team, mate, if w- I mean, if we're talking about Andre at number eight, we may be talking about Andre at number seven.

What do you make of, uh, Rassie's comments this week about people are maybe too obsessed with the number on the back in the way the Springboks play? He's not talking about the modern game, he says, in the way they play, and specifically when he spoke about the makeup of the loose trio and the way we've traditionally played with two, two big loose forwards and a smaller one who forages to the ball.

Uh, you still got your lineout option, you still got your kick receive options, and you still got two potentially strong ball carriers.

W- He says the only thing they do is they really pack down at eight, and you can even change that around if you want to.
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