Just DAO It: A Podcast for People Starting DAOs
Jul 27, 2026 · 41 min · 15 segments
Preventing DAO Governance Attacks + Building a Music DAO and AI Agent Legal Entities (with Zaal / Better Call Zaal) Adam Miller hosts Just DAO It and interviews Zaal (“Better Call Zaal”), founder of…
As much of my audience already knows, we will spend the first half of the show going into recent news in the industry, and then we'll turn to a more in-depth discussion about what you're working on.
So for the JustDowit news report, the first story of the week is another governance attack, or perhaps we should call it an apathy attack.
The smart contracts that govern the organization's money hosted a normal proposal and a normal vote.
What's being called the attacker spent $4.4 million and then proposed and passed a proposal taking $20 million out of the Treasury to itself.
So once again, we have a scenario where if anyone had been paying attention and willing to vote, assuming that they really disagreed with this proposal, they could have come in and voted it out.
The legal scenario here is what's going to happen here in this organization are you going to have some members suing founders or people who had a lot of voting rights and did nothing and as we've discussed many times on this show because the dow does not have a legal rapper anyone who's voted in this dow before can be held liable for whatever went wrong i think aside from the whole low turnout idea and just thinking about this in any dao or governance system you create is to have something like a security council we talked about this the ens security council in the last show and we'll cover that again soon you could have some kind of time lock or major transactions that give people more time to show up Honestly, I'm left wondering what really happened here.
Was there no founder who had 3% of the tokens that could have outvoted this? And maybe this project wanted to be so decentralized that no one has 3%.
As much of my audience already knows, we will spend the first half of the show going into recent news in the industry, and then we'll turn to a more in-depth discussion about what you're working on.
So for the JustDowit news report, the first story of the week is another governance attack, or perhaps we should call it an apathy attack.
The smart contracts that govern the organization's money hosted a normal proposal and a normal vote.
What's being called the attacker spent $4.4 million and then proposed and passed a proposal taking $20 million out of the Treasury to itself.
So once again, we have a scenario where if anyone had been paying attention and willing to vote, assuming that they really disagreed with this proposal, they could have come in and voted it out.
The legal scenario here is what's going to happen here in this organization are you going to have some members suing founders or people who had a lot of voting rights and did nothing and as we've discussed many times on this show because the dow does not have a legal rapper anyone who's voted in this dow before can be held liable for whatever went wrong i think aside from the whole low turnout idea and just thinking about this in any dao or governance system you create is to have something like a security council we talked about this the ens security council in the last show and we'll cover that again soon you could have some kind of time lock or major transactions that give people more time to show up Honestly, I'm left wondering what really happened here.
Was there no founder who had 3% of the tokens that could have outvoted this? And maybe this project wanted to be so decentralized that no one has 3%.
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