Jon Richardson and the Futurenauts
May 8, 2026 · 1 hr 2 min · 17 segments
Jon, Ed & Mark are joined by Flora Page KC, a leading barrister who represented wrongly accused subpostmasters in the Post Office Horizon IT scandal to talk about the future of juries - the beating…
Ed GillespieHost
Jon RichardsonHost
Mark StevensonHost
Is there a website where you can get, like, a pro forma letter to send to your MP?
The, so there's a, a, an organization called the Juror's Alliance, and the website is literally thejuryalliance.uk. Um-
Actually, there's a good summary of a lot of what we've talked about today, um, on that particular website, so if people do feel inspired and motivated to do that.
It did, it did make me laugh, John, 'cause John, you had to leave earlier, didn't you, when we were just tailing off the recording.
And you put in the thing, "Sorry, I've got to bail," [laughs] which I thought was quite a good-
I mean, I do think we do have to focus sometimes on these serious things, and this is perhaps one of the most contemporaneous podcasts we've done, 'cause we tend to look at things which are big, live, and present challenges, but this one is obviously incredibly time limited because of the way that this legislation is controversially moving at such pace through Parliament, which is why we've kind of tried to record something a little bit different.
I mean, I did also want to just mention the Penn and Mead story, 'cause it came up a couple of times.
I was hoping Flora would explain it, but, and this is one of those amazing moments in legal history when a precedent test case is made, and these two guys were Methodist preachers who were preaching illegally in the street, and the jury refused to convict them.
Is there a website where you can get, like, a pro forma letter to send to your MP?
The, so there's a, a, an organization called the Juror's Alliance, and the website is literally thejuryalliance.uk. Um-
Actually, there's a good summary of a lot of what we've talked about today, um, on that particular website, so if people do feel inspired and motivated to do that.
It did, it did make me laugh, John, 'cause John, you had to leave earlier, didn't you, when we were just tailing off the recording.
And you put in the thing, "Sorry, I've got to bail," [laughs] which I thought was quite a good-
I mean, I do think we do have to focus sometimes on these serious things, and this is perhaps one of the most contemporaneous podcasts we've done, 'cause we tend to look at things which are big, live, and present challenges, but this one is obviously incredibly time limited because of the way that this legislation is controversially moving at such pace through Parliament, which is why we've kind of tried to record something a little bit different.
I mean, I did also want to just mention the Penn and Mead story, 'cause it came up a couple of times.
I was hoping Flora would explain it, but, and this is one of those amazing moments in legal history when a precedent test case is made, and these two guys were Methodist preachers who were preaching illegally in the street, and the jury refused to convict them.
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