Sep 17, 2026 · 41 min · 9 segments
This week, Liz uses Lindsay Clancy’s case as a starting point to discuss the overlooked experiences of women in prison. She is joined by Sara Bennett, a photographer and former public defender whose…
Sara BennettGuest
Liz OyerHost
Well, there are so many more photos in your book that I would encourage everyone to check out.

I was saying before we jumped on here, I, it was almost random the ones that I selected to ask you about, because they're all so compelling and I would've liked to go through all of them.

I encourage everybody who's listening to check out Sara's full collection of photos.

What immediately drew me to your work is the way you capture the ordinary humanity of the women that you're photographing.

I mean, all of these women are in prison serving life sentences, and yet they look so ordinary in a way that's really disarming.

They look like grandmas and mothers and daughters and cousins, like regular people.

And when I displayed your work in my old office, I loved to see people come in and study the photos, and then see their faces when they learned that these were women serving life in prison.

Um, so I just wanted to ask: Who are you trying to reach with the photos, and have they made the impact that you hoped?

I just want people to know that people in prison are just really regular people.

Well, there are so many more photos in your book that I would encourage everyone to check out.

I was saying before we jumped on here, I, it was almost random the ones that I selected to ask you about, because they're all so compelling and I would've liked to go through all of them.

I encourage everybody who's listening to check out Sara's full collection of photos.

What immediately drew me to your work is the way you capture the ordinary humanity of the women that you're photographing.

I mean, all of these women are in prison serving life sentences, and yet they look so ordinary in a way that's really disarming.

They look like grandmas and mothers and daughters and cousins, like regular people.

And when I displayed your work in my old office, I loved to see people come in and study the photos, and then see their faces when they learned that these were women serving life in prison.

Um, so I just wanted to ask: Who are you trying to reach with the photos, and have they made the impact that you hoped?

I just want people to know that people in prison are just really regular people.
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