IN IT with Jordan Harper and Ashley Buckler
Oct 6, 2026 · 28 min · 10 segments
I mean, this is a little bit of a tangent to what we're going to talk about in this episode, but I will say we've been doing a lot of interviews and everything everyone's saying is how important rest is.
And I think I just need to reframe my rest and put it in my productivity bucket.
So in essentialism, they say this about rest, but they also say essentialism is like one of my favorite books.
That is extremely hard for me to like, if I'm going to play, like I'm going to play tennis because I'm going to get better.
Tennis doesn't count as play? If you're doing it to like for some ulterior motive of like wanting to get, I mean, it's play, but like you should be doing something that's like not really non-productive play.
To me, I think if I'm taking tennis lessons, that's productive, but it's also play.
But it's, there's just, we need to like allow ourselves to not be productive and that's like really hard.
I feel like that's really hard for a lot of moms because we're, we don't have a lot of alone time.
You don't want to be trying to like Be adult and be momming, that's too frustrating.
So then that just means like our window to get stuff done is very small and we do have to optimize the 1% throughout the day.
I mean, this is a little bit of a tangent to what we're going to talk about in this episode, but I will say we've been doing a lot of interviews and everything everyone's saying is how important rest is.
And I think I just need to reframe my rest and put it in my productivity bucket.
So in essentialism, they say this about rest, but they also say essentialism is like one of my favorite books.
That is extremely hard for me to like, if I'm going to play, like I'm going to play tennis because I'm going to get better.
Tennis doesn't count as play? If you're doing it to like for some ulterior motive of like wanting to get, I mean, it's play, but like you should be doing something that's like not really non-productive play.
To me, I think if I'm taking tennis lessons, that's productive, but it's also play.
But it's, there's just, we need to like allow ourselves to not be productive and that's like really hard.
I feel like that's really hard for a lot of moms because we're, we don't have a lot of alone time.
You don't want to be trying to like Be adult and be momming, that's too frustrating.
So then that just means like our window to get stuff done is very small and we do have to optimize the 1% throughout the day.
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