Jul 13, 2026 · 38 min · 9 segments
**What if everything you've been taught about running a nonprofit is backwards?** In this episode of *Perdure*, we sit down with David Schizer—Dean Emeritus of Columbia Law School, former Executive…
David SchizerGuestAlissa SternHostRevi SterlingHostOnce we learned about this word, we thought it would be perfect for our podcast.
Every organization we've covered on this show has had to perdure to survive funding shocks, leadership crises, reputational hits, even wars, without losing the thing that made them matter in the first place.
So while we're still concerned about impact, we're also focused on what it takes to perdure.
Every four or five episodes, we're going to step back from a deep dive into individual organizations and bring in one of the best thinkers on nonprofits and the business models underneath them.
We decided to do this because every deep dive we do keeps running into the same handful of underlying questions.
How do you measure impact? How do you plan under uncertainty? How do you keep donors as partners instead of just as wallets? We'll ask the people who've spent their careers thinking about these questions, starting with today's first conversational episode.
And quick disclaimer, same as always, Perdure is for information and entertainment only.
The views are ours alone, not our employers, not our clients, not anyone we've ever worked for.
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Once we learned about this word, we thought it would be perfect for our podcast.
Every organization we've covered on this show has had to perdure to survive funding shocks, leadership crises, reputational hits, even wars, without losing the thing that made them matter in the first place.
So while we're still concerned about impact, we're also focused on what it takes to perdure.
Every four or five episodes, we're going to step back from a deep dive into individual organizations and bring in one of the best thinkers on nonprofits and the business models underneath them.
We decided to do this because every deep dive we do keeps running into the same handful of underlying questions.
How do you measure impact? How do you plan under uncertainty? How do you keep donors as partners instead of just as wallets? We'll ask the people who've spent their careers thinking about these questions, starting with today's first conversational episode.
And quick disclaimer, same as always, Perdure is for information and entertainment only.
The views are ours alone, not our employers, not our clients, not anyone we've ever worked for.