Jonathan CribbGuest
Heidi KarjalainenGuest
Christine FarquharsonHostSo to start us off, Heidi, can you tell us a little bit about the background here? What are the different sources of income that pensioners can draw on in their retirement?

Um, this nowadays is a flat rate amount, so most people, if you've been in the country for 35 years, so if you've been either working, uh, caring for children, if you've been, um, receiving means tested benefits, all of that builds entitlement to this, uh, new state pension.

And that's kind of a foundation of retirement income, and on top of that, people can then build private pension saving.

Uh, in the past, a lot of people had what we call defined benefit pensions.

These are kind of final salary schemes which, uh, guarantee an income stream, uh, in retirement.

But nowadays, most people have what we call defined contribution pensions, and more and more people have those because of automatic enrollment.

So since 2012, employers have to automatically enroll their, um, their employees into a private pension and contribute a minimum amount.

Now, of course, for some people, especially those on low incomes, uh, people with disabilities, caring responsibilities, there are also some means tested benefits, disability benefits and so on.

But really for most people it's the state pension and then any private pension that they've built on top of that, that, uh, constitutes their total income in retirement.
So to start us off, Heidi, can you tell us a little bit about the background here? What are the different sources of income that pensioners can draw on in their retirement?

Um, this nowadays is a flat rate amount, so most people, if you've been in the country for 35 years, so if you've been either working, uh, caring for children, if you've been, um, receiving means tested benefits, all of that builds entitlement to this, uh, new state pension.

And that's kind of a foundation of retirement income, and on top of that, people can then build private pension saving.

Uh, in the past, a lot of people had what we call defined benefit pensions.

These are kind of final salary schemes which, uh, guarantee an income stream, uh, in retirement.

But nowadays, most people have what we call defined contribution pensions, and more and more people have those because of automatic enrollment.

So since 2012, employers have to automatically enroll their, um, their employees into a private pension and contribute a minimum amount.

Now, of course, for some people, especially those on low incomes, uh, people with disabilities, caring responsibilities, there are also some means tested benefits, disability benefits and so on.

But really for most people it's the state pension and then any private pension that they've built on top of that, that, uh, constitutes their total income in retirement.
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