Elon Musk

I, I imagine that you've heard of this book.

Yeah, I thought it was, like, kind of too fawning of an account, kind of like the, uh, Michael Lewis Sam Bankman-Fried book.

I wouldn't say that Isaacson is fawning.

He correctly identifies the vast majority of Elon Musk's issues.

Mm-hmm.

He doesn't seem to weigh them that heavily against, like, the good aspects of Elon Musk, as he sees them.

But what are those? I'm so, I'm so ready to hear what the good (laughs) aspects of Elon Musk are.

How dare you? He's the richest man in the world.

I'm also so proud of myself for being early on the Elon Musk hate train.

I was also early Elon Musk hater, although I don't know if I just got lucky on that.

What was it? What, what did it for you?

I just don't like how he is, you know?

(laughs)

I just don't like the way that he carries himself in the world.

Seems weird, undefeated.

Other issues with Isaacson's portrayal, Musk himself is obviously an unreliable narrator.

Yeah.

Not just in terms of, like, what happened and when, but also his motivations.

Yeah.

And Isaacson seems to both know this and not fully process it.

Yeah.

He will say, you know...

He will point out that Elon has been misleading in certain ways, but he doesn't act like Elon is lying to him consistently.

Right.

And, and at various points, he just sort of tells Elon's story, right? He interviewed many-