Jul 25, 2026 · 42 min · 10 segments
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Mark AdderleyHostso i think we can move that across both genders actually but just just just first of all mark what have you ever felt that and and what did you think of his first line when he said we are not taught how to be husbands well there
because yeah because just to kick off with that i disagree with that i think that men are taught about how to be a husband, but often by the wrong people in the wrong way.
So if you've grown up with a dad, which there will be people here that wasn't a good husband, then you have learnt something.
Or as somebody that was very defensive, everything is learnt behaviour, isn't it?

I mean, I thought it was funny you should say that, because for me, the first big sentence out of it was being taught to be a husband.

But as I got older and as I met various individuals or an individual who was allegedly my dad, and I'm not convinced is my dad.

And then I heard things about various men that have passed through my mom's life, say, who could have been dad figures.

It's less about being a father, but the father, the husband, the man in a relationship, there is always this kind of received idea, isn't there, around sort of like wayward children that, oh, well, he comes from a broken home and actually, you know, it's the role of fathers.

And that's not to say that the role of fathers and the role of husbands and husbands being good role models for their... you know, sons about what sort of husbands they are.

It's not that those aren't all important, but I've got to a point in my life where something that has been a really big gaping hole in my identity, in my sense of self and my self-esteem and who I am and all these kinds of things as a dad and as a husband, I've got to a point, not completely, but more often than not now, I can settle myself around that sort of upset or disorientation by thinking it's not a given actually that being around a bloke or having a bloke in your life, whether it be a husband or a dad, is necessarily always the right thing for anyone because they can bring so much sort of toxicity and misogyny and what have you.
so i think we can move that across both genders actually but just just just first of all mark what have you ever felt that and and what did you think of his first line when he said we are not taught how to be husbands well there
because yeah because just to kick off with that i disagree with that i think that men are taught about how to be a husband, but often by the wrong people in the wrong way.
So if you've grown up with a dad, which there will be people here that wasn't a good husband, then you have learnt something.
Or as somebody that was very defensive, everything is learnt behaviour, isn't it?

I mean, I thought it was funny you should say that, because for me, the first big sentence out of it was being taught to be a husband.

But as I got older and as I met various individuals or an individual who was allegedly my dad, and I'm not convinced is my dad.

And then I heard things about various men that have passed through my mom's life, say, who could have been dad figures.

It's less about being a father, but the father, the husband, the man in a relationship, there is always this kind of received idea, isn't there, around sort of like wayward children that, oh, well, he comes from a broken home and actually, you know, it's the role of fathers.

And that's not to say that the role of fathers and the role of husbands and husbands being good role models for their... you know, sons about what sort of husbands they are.

It's not that those aren't all important, but I've got to a point in my life where something that has been a really big gaping hole in my identity, in my sense of self and my self-esteem and who I am and all these kinds of things as a dad and as a husband, I've got to a point, not completely, but more often than not now, I can settle myself around that sort of upset or disorientation by thinking it's not a given actually that being around a bloke or having a bloke in your life, whether it be a husband or a dad, is necessarily always the right thing for anyone because they can bring so much sort of toxicity and misogyny and what have you.
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