Snack: Lucy Guo

Welcome, Lucy.

Thank you for having me.

I'm excited to chat.

Great, great.

So my first question, did Taylor Swift send you a note when you unseated her as the world's youngest self-made female billionaire?

I'm a huge Taylor fan.

Like she's probably the only person I've ever met in my life that I've like, you know, fangirled over.

Like I was like shaking.

So no, she didn't send a note.

And it was really sad because I would have loved to know.

You're obviously a very driven person.

Were you always this way? Were you like this as a kid?

You know, weirdly enough, I think so, but, like, not necessarily for, like, the motivation of wanting to change the world.

There was something to, like, being...

I was always competitive.

So I think this, like, started off when I was even, you know, selling Pokemon cards on the playground or, like, building bots to, like... make money on Neopets, I wasn't really using that money to invest in stocks, for example, at that age.

I was specifically building bots to get items on Neopets to sell and make money so I could buy better pets on Neopets and buy other things I wanted, like skateboards, et cetera.

Because I always wanted to be the best at everything.

And that included owning the rarest pets on Neopets.

Yeah.

And I think that... competitive nature drove me to like really where I am today I also think I just like really love building products I think like I don't know if it's like just competitiveness like oh cool I built like the best arcade website I built the best internet marketing tool but it's really cool for me to see like people use my, like the apps I build, right? Like I would build random apps on weekends for fun.

Um, and then just launched them on product hunt and then they would go viral and get millions of users and just like seeing people out in the wild, use it was just very cool.