Jul 14, 2026 · 1 hr 8 min · 14 segments
Walking through life in a body navigating the impacts of trauma can quietly or loudly affect our daily lives, relationships, and sexualities. Bodies can hold painful stories from the past and create…
Heather McIntoshHostJoniGuestGregGuest
Pam FitchGuestYes, absolutely.
[gentle music]

When I spoke to Pam, she too spoke of the long and slow road of working with clients in specialized ways to slowly, slowly help them feel safe and able to tolerate being touched.

People who do best with any kind of, uh, body work, if they do well in it, it's because they're at the stage where they can speak about their experiences, their-

So the, the implicit memories have become narrative memories, and they can actually say this-

they don't need to tell details, but they can say, "Something happened to me, and I don't want you to touch in this part of my body."

Right? That is the point at which people really, their s- their skill at learning to embody themselves takes off because they've done the really important, uh, psychological, emotional work in putting to bed some of their, their fears and, and, uh, disturbances, but also wrapping their heads around what happened to them.

Then they come in and they do some body work, and it is really important because they can feel.

They can experience Touch in a different way than what they had when they were being hurt.

I know way back in the day, people would actually think that it was helpful to relive trauma.
Yes, absolutely.
[gentle music]

When I spoke to Pam, she too spoke of the long and slow road of working with clients in specialized ways to slowly, slowly help them feel safe and able to tolerate being touched.

People who do best with any kind of, uh, body work, if they do well in it, it's because they're at the stage where they can speak about their experiences, their-

So the, the implicit memories have become narrative memories, and they can actually say this-

they don't need to tell details, but they can say, "Something happened to me, and I don't want you to touch in this part of my body."

Right? That is the point at which people really, their s- their skill at learning to embody themselves takes off because they've done the really important, uh, psychological, emotional work in putting to bed some of their, their fears and, and, uh, disturbances, but also wrapping their heads around what happened to them.

Then they come in and they do some body work, and it is really important because they can feel.

They can experience Touch in a different way than what they had when they were being hurt.

I know way back in the day, people would actually think that it was helpful to relive trauma.
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