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Hard Hat Chat Podcast

Hard Hat Chat Podcast

Doing Our BEST in Construction, Even When it's Hard | Episode 64

Sep 4, 2026 · 38 min · 11 segments

In this episode, Dan and Curt get honest about the challenges of being the best versions of ourselves in the construction industry - and why it’s so important to keep trying, even when it’s hard…

In this episode, Dan and Curt get honest about the challenges of being the best versions of ourselves in the construction industry - and why it’s so important to keep trying, even when it’s hard. *Hard Hat Chat* is your no-nonsense take on the UK construction industry, hosted by Dan Carey (founder, Core4) and Curt Hull (General Manager, Core4). Expect honest insights, industry talk, great guests, and a bit of banter from the front line of the world's most important sector. This episode is for entertainment purposes only. *Hard Hat Chat* is Powered by Core4. * * * Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, Dan and Curt get honest about the challenges of being the best versions of ourselves in the construction industry - and why it’s so important to keep trying, even when it’s hard…

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Starting Core 43:55 – 8:02

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So I'm going to rewind you six years.

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Six years ago, I was full of optimism and...

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Vim and vigour.

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I was younger.

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The world was dying.

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People thought the world was dying.

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And I thought, what a great time to start a business and take over a garden centre.

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Yeah.

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That's basically what happened.

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And then I realized I couldn't actually get no materials.

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And if you could, they were very expensive.

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They were very expensive.

4:27

So I did.

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I started a business in an old garden center.

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And that business we know today, we know and love as Cawthor.

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Solutions-based company.

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And...

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You know, I was intent on doing it like I'd idled some people over the years.

4:48

I'd idolized certain people, weird people, as we know from this podcast, Tommy Walsh.

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Well, handy, Andy.

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We're not calling them weird.

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No, no, it's not weird.

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It might be weird to have

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them as your idol.

5:02

For me as a young lad to look up to them sorts of people and go to Wixies and that to meet them.

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Starting Core 43:55 – 8:02

3:55

So I'm going to rewind you six years.

3:58

Six years ago, I was full of optimism and...

4:03

Vim and vigour.

4:05

I was younger.

4:06

The world was dying.

4:08

People thought the world was dying.

4:11

And I thought, what a great time to start a business and take over a garden centre.

4:16

Yeah.

4:17

That's basically what happened.

4:20

And then I realized I couldn't actually get no materials.

4:24

And if you could, they were very expensive.

4:25

They were very expensive.

4:27

So I did.

4:28

I started a business in an old garden center.

4:32

And that business we know today, we know and love as Cawthor.

4:37

Solutions-based company.

4:40

And...

4:41

You know, I was intent on doing it like I'd idled some people over the years.

4:48

I'd idolized certain people, weird people, as we know from this podcast, Tommy Walsh.

4:55

Well, handy, Andy.

4:57

We're not calling them weird.

4:59

No, no, it's not weird.

5:00

It might be weird to have

5:02

them as your idol.

5:02

For me as a young lad to look up to them sorts of people and go to Wixies and that to meet them.

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