Happy at Work | Coding Happiness into the AI Workplace
Oct 13, 2026 · 29 min · 11 segments
Hierarchy kills transformation when leaders forget the people doing the work. If your company is pushing through constant change, this conversation is for you. Tatiana Koval, host of Happy at Work…
what.I think that now it's, I want to discuss more human side of transformation as we decided.
It's, uh, firstly, I want to ask you, now we made a situation where the people really, uh, feel a lot of fears about transformation, and also they feel themself tired from the continuous transformation.
What also from a leaders and also employees the same, I think the same, but they need change.
What could you recommend? What company could do for their leaders, their employees to help them, to support them, to energize them for coming through the transformation?
I think there's, uh, there's so many things to think about in, in the context of humans.
Um, and it's, I think what's happening in the workplace now, I'm certainly seeing more of it, is around there is more consideration.
There's a pressure on them at the top to do what drives a profitable organization, profitable business, be successful, but now there's added pressure because they have to think about humans.
But it is so important, and it's fundamental to whatever they want to do and wherever they want to go with their projects.
So I think as well as, you can almost flip it on its head, as well as thinking about people in the workplace who need to be cared, looked after, like I said earlier, think about their wellbeing, make sure they're in an environment where they feel psychologically safe and they can talk, I think we also need to think about leaders who need that as well.
You try and get rid of hierarchy, work together as a team to achieve something, personally I think that we're more successful.
When you have that hierarchy in place, the leaders have got their own fears, the workforce have got their own fears, and quite often they're not the same fears.
So I, I think for both leaders and workforce, we need to consider things more around, okay, so what are your...
what.I think that now it's, I want to discuss more human side of transformation as we decided.
It's, uh, firstly, I want to ask you, now we made a situation where the people really, uh, feel a lot of fears about transformation, and also they feel themself tired from the continuous transformation.
What also from a leaders and also employees the same, I think the same, but they need change.
What could you recommend? What company could do for their leaders, their employees to help them, to support them, to energize them for coming through the transformation?
I think there's, uh, there's so many things to think about in, in the context of humans.
Um, and it's, I think what's happening in the workplace now, I'm certainly seeing more of it, is around there is more consideration.
There's a pressure on them at the top to do what drives a profitable organization, profitable business, be successful, but now there's added pressure because they have to think about humans.
But it is so important, and it's fundamental to whatever they want to do and wherever they want to go with their projects.
So I think as well as, you can almost flip it on its head, as well as thinking about people in the workplace who need to be cared, looked after, like I said earlier, think about their wellbeing, make sure they're in an environment where they feel psychologically safe and they can talk, I think we also need to think about leaders who need that as well.
You try and get rid of hierarchy, work together as a team to achieve something, personally I think that we're more successful.
When you have that hierarchy in place, the leaders have got their own fears, the workforce have got their own fears, and quite often they're not the same fears.
So I, I think for both leaders and workforce, we need to consider things more around, okay, so what are your...
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