Jul 13, 2026 · 25 min · 10 segments
What if more PTO and salary increases aren't the cure for employee burnout? In this episode of the *Guerrilla HR Podcast*, Becky sits down with Chemeeka Sparks from Travel Nation to challenge the…
Shamika SparksGuest
Becky DrozdzHost
Talk more about that because I think that's what's really so important in what you do.

There's a 70% increase in burnout that studies are showing amongst employees.

You see the money in your bank account, but money against memories, there's no comparison.

I think when we're with some of these folks that might be on some of these trips, though, I think at a lower level, sometimes like the money, like if your basic needs aren't met, you got to start there.

But I think we're talking, you know, this is a different caliber, a different level in a sense that, you know, these are maybe real high performers or leaders that are really strategically making a difference for the organization.

So the incentive travel, the goal of the incentive travel is to boost companies' KPI.

to boost engagement, to address the increase in the mental health crisis that's happening.

So let's say you have an employee that you've burdened them with more tasks, you've increased their salary, but they're still disengaged.

That incentive travel, that trip, that opportunity, that experience, and sometimes I do have companies that allow the family members to join for even a part of it, It increases productivity by at least 65%.

Talk more about that because I think that's what's really so important in what you do.

There's a 70% increase in burnout that studies are showing amongst employees.

You see the money in your bank account, but money against memories, there's no comparison.

I think when we're with some of these folks that might be on some of these trips, though, I think at a lower level, sometimes like the money, like if your basic needs aren't met, you got to start there.

But I think we're talking, you know, this is a different caliber, a different level in a sense that, you know, these are maybe real high performers or leaders that are really strategically making a difference for the organization.

So the incentive travel, the goal of the incentive travel is to boost companies' KPI.

to boost engagement, to address the increase in the mental health crisis that's happening.

So let's say you have an employee that you've burdened them with more tasks, you've increased their salary, but they're still disengaged.

That incentive travel, that trip, that opportunity, that experience, and sometimes I do have companies that allow the family members to join for even a part of it, It increases productivity by at least 65%.
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