Sep 9, 2026 · 31 min · 11 segments
Gabe Moreno thought he was ready to lead the school that had already been such a big part of his life. They told him he wasn't. Instead of letting that rejection define him, Gabe left, gained new…
Gabe MorenoGuest
Matt RosenHost
Well, tell us about some of your time in sports, because I find that that's where a lot of people start to cultivate their grit.

And before we even go there, what does grit mean to you? It's something I ask every guest on the show.

It is knowing that you're going to hit some roadblocks, but finding a way to push the roadblock out of the way, climb over it, go under it, whatever it is, even if you have to go through it, finding a way to reach that goal that you've set for yourself or the goal that is in front of you.

And where do you think you first started to develop the grit that you have today? Was it in Oak Cliff? Was it playing sports? Share with us where that really began for you.

And I think the game of baseball is one of failure, right? You are constantly failing.

So when you get a taste of success in baseball, it's almost a cause for celebration, right? You just get used to the idea that you're not going to be successful all the time.

But what's more important is that you're prepared and that you are doing your best every single step of the way.

My time I caught for most of my career, I ended up switching over to third base about my junior year, senior year of high school.

And to me, that's a big example of grit as well, because I knew at the time, even though I had caught for three years at the high school level, The person that was behind me as a catcher was a great ball player.

He was fast and very smart, but we had a need in another position that I knew I could play as well.

So I gave up my starting spot as a catcher to move over to third base to help the team.

And to me, as it relates to grit is, look, I know that that's not my best position, but I'm a better teammate taking that on for the team and allowing this other person to be in our lineup as well.

And knowing the goal that we had for the season, making the playoffs, making a deep run, that was going to give us our best shot.

It shows that you could be a utility player, flex, try something different, not be afraid to fail.

And it was, you know, I had never played that position, but being a third baseman, the biggest thing is, one, you have to have zero fear.

Well, tell us about some of your time in sports, because I find that that's where a lot of people start to cultivate their grit.

And before we even go there, what does grit mean to you? It's something I ask every guest on the show.

It is knowing that you're going to hit some roadblocks, but finding a way to push the roadblock out of the way, climb over it, go under it, whatever it is, even if you have to go through it, finding a way to reach that goal that you've set for yourself or the goal that is in front of you.

And where do you think you first started to develop the grit that you have today? Was it in Oak Cliff? Was it playing sports? Share with us where that really began for you.

And I think the game of baseball is one of failure, right? You are constantly failing.

So when you get a taste of success in baseball, it's almost a cause for celebration, right? You just get used to the idea that you're not going to be successful all the time.

But what's more important is that you're prepared and that you are doing your best every single step of the way.

My time I caught for most of my career, I ended up switching over to third base about my junior year, senior year of high school.

And to me, that's a big example of grit as well, because I knew at the time, even though I had caught for three years at the high school level, The person that was behind me as a catcher was a great ball player.

He was fast and very smart, but we had a need in another position that I knew I could play as well.

So I gave up my starting spot as a catcher to move over to third base to help the team.

And to me, as it relates to grit is, look, I know that that's not my best position, but I'm a better teammate taking that on for the team and allowing this other person to be in our lineup as well.

And knowing the goal that we had for the season, making the playoffs, making a deep run, that was going to give us our best shot.

It shows that you could be a utility player, flex, try something different, not be afraid to fail.

And it was, you know, I had never played that position, but being a third baseman, the biggest thing is, one, you have to have zero fear.
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