Jun 11, 2026 · 15 min · 8 segments
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.fuckingcancelled.com In Episode 97 Clementine and Jay kick it with Bebe Montoya, Portland’s best and most cancelled socialist…
Bebe MontoyaGuestJayHostClementineHost
I have been writing left-wing critiques of cancel culture in my zines for four years now.
And it took me that long to be ready to talk about this piece, to be ready to talk about how... my experience identifying as non-binary actually dovetailed.
If you look at the Venn diagram, for me, of the time at which I was the most indoctrinated into the identitarian worldview and the time during which I was very committed to the idea that I was non-binary, it's just a circle.
Obviously, I received a lot of pushback, right, when I started writing about cancel culture.
But I also received a lot of support from my audience saying, And it was weird because this piece of my experience was kind of like this invisible phantom that I knew was there, but nobody else did because I was too scared to touch it.
And I just knew that once I did, a lot of people who were actually on board with what I was saying otherwise were going to be like, no, fuck you.
And I don't know, maybe it's just that I needed to have enough experience handling online backlash as a response to my work to be ready to wade into the deeper waters.
And also just getting enough distance in my life and having enough time to process on my own and kind of make sense of my own experience that it didn't feel And what was your experience with non-binary identity? What is the story that you're telling in these scenes? It is a story with multiple parts, with multiple kind of root causes.
I was raised in a family where gender nonconformity was like so not a big deal.
I was just raised in an environment where I don't think that in my family of origin, I was pressured to learn how to be a girl, quote unquote, and just perform the gender norms and conform in the way that a lot of people are.
And, you know, as a result, like my, you know, natural personality is just, it does not conform to the norms and the stereotypes, and I didn't think much of it until I It was the summer after I graduated high school was like a pivotal moment in my in my life and in my identitarian journey, because it's when I got Internet access for the first time.
I had unfettered Internet access because I got my first laptop and I got my first smartphone.
And then of course, you know, showing up on a college campus where identitarianism was just in full swing.
I have been writing left-wing critiques of cancel culture in my zines for four years now.
And it took me that long to be ready to talk about this piece, to be ready to talk about how... my experience identifying as non-binary actually dovetailed.
If you look at the Venn diagram, for me, of the time at which I was the most indoctrinated into the identitarian worldview and the time during which I was very committed to the idea that I was non-binary, it's just a circle.
Obviously, I received a lot of pushback, right, when I started writing about cancel culture.
But I also received a lot of support from my audience saying, And it was weird because this piece of my experience was kind of like this invisible phantom that I knew was there, but nobody else did because I was too scared to touch it.
And I just knew that once I did, a lot of people who were actually on board with what I was saying otherwise were going to be like, no, fuck you.
And I don't know, maybe it's just that I needed to have enough experience handling online backlash as a response to my work to be ready to wade into the deeper waters.
And also just getting enough distance in my life and having enough time to process on my own and kind of make sense of my own experience that it didn't feel And what was your experience with non-binary identity? What is the story that you're telling in these scenes? It is a story with multiple parts, with multiple kind of root causes.
I was raised in a family where gender nonconformity was like so not a big deal.
I was just raised in an environment where I don't think that in my family of origin, I was pressured to learn how to be a girl, quote unquote, and just perform the gender norms and conform in the way that a lot of people are.
And, you know, as a result, like my, you know, natural personality is just, it does not conform to the norms and the stereotypes, and I didn't think much of it until I It was the summer after I graduated high school was like a pivotal moment in my in my life and in my identitarian journey, because it's when I got Internet access for the first time.
I had unfettered Internet access because I got my first laptop and I got my first smartphone.
And then of course, you know, showing up on a college campus where identitarianism was just in full swing.
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