Aug 14, 2026 · 41 min · 10 segments
One day after Christopher Luxon survived a confidence vote, Oliver and Damien ask whether he has finally shown the country who he really is. Next, they discuss Chris Penk's departure from politics and…
Damien GrantHost
Oliver HartwichHost
of Chris Laxon after just surviving another coup attempt with essentially all of the plotters lined up behind him like some Soviet Politburo, all promising to be loyal to the leader this time, despite the fact that they have been consistently disloyal? It is such a dysfunctional government.

And they're just about the only competent minister they had been let out the back and shot out of the back of a gulag.

And somehow they've got to try and convince the public that they should be given another three years.

Some of the people standing behind Chris Luxon have done really outstanding work in their ministries.

Yeah, and that's actually where I started to disagree with you already, because you said it's a deeply dysfunctional government.

But when you saw them all standing behind Christopher Luxon looking rather glum, actually – What you could also have seen is, of course, this is a government with some really outstanding ministers.

But the other thing is actually we've got some ministers who actually got a lot of stuff done.

Isn't there like a sports team analogy where you have 15 really outstanding soccer players, but as a team they don't work? Well, if you had

of Chris Laxon after just surviving another coup attempt with essentially all of the plotters lined up behind him like some Soviet Politburo, all promising to be loyal to the leader this time, despite the fact that they have been consistently disloyal? It is such a dysfunctional government.

And they're just about the only competent minister they had been let out the back and shot out of the back of a gulag.

And somehow they've got to try and convince the public that they should be given another three years.

Some of the people standing behind Chris Luxon have done really outstanding work in their ministries.

Yeah, and that's actually where I started to disagree with you already, because you said it's a deeply dysfunctional government.

But when you saw them all standing behind Christopher Luxon looking rather glum, actually – What you could also have seen is, of course, this is a government with some really outstanding ministers.

But the other thing is actually we've got some ministers who actually got a lot of stuff done.

Isn't there like a sports team analogy where you have 15 really outstanding soccer players, but as a team they don't work? Well, if you had
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