Jul 22, 2026 · 10 min · 11 segments
In this episode, Brian Creager and Bernd discuss how founders can measure their company's independence from them beyond traditional financial metrics. They explore behavioral indicators…
Bernd GeroppHostLanguage changes before the numbers change.
So in a dependent company, people, for example, say, we need to ask Brian, what does the founders want? He has to decide.
Yeah.

Founders are used to looking at numbers, revenue, profit, cash, pipeline, utilization.
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