Forge Contractor Alliance Podcast
Sep 16, 2026 · 51 min · 9 segments
In Episode 54 of the Forge Contractor Alliance podcast, Kenton and Josh tackle a difficult question for small contractors: what happens when you invest years into training someone, only for that…
Kenton FriesenHostJoshGuest
So I feel like it, it matters as far as like defining what this discussion actually is, because what we're talking about is partially retention.
because if you talk about just retention on its own

then we are talking about you know people can leave for a million reasons right like yeah as many reasons as there are people there can be reasons to leave and and essentially what you what you talk about with when someone leaves your company Um, there's multiple different things that can happen at that point on, on the far side of the scale, it can be a huge plus for the company.

If someone has been toxic, um, or has been, um, non-productive, which can is toxic and, and, or just the wrong fit for the company.

Um, On the opposite side of the scale, you can lose a key member of your, and potentially the key member other than the owner.

Like it's possible, right? And you, and then they directly go into business and compete against you.

With, and if they were your key member, chances are their competency is going to be pretty high.

And so what you have then is you go from, you take a major loss in your own company, as well as then are confronted with a potential competitor that could make a difference to your market share.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, in particular to the, I mean, retention is a big part of this topic.
And I think once we really dive into the retention side of things, that's where there's just so much that goes into that.
That's where it turns into a whole series.
But particularly because I've had some experience of this with my company, but I've also been worked for other companies in the past.
And I have good friends who have contracting companies where they're And just to be frank, it's super upsetting to me, but I understand this is probably part of my values.
Sure.

So I feel like it, it matters as far as like defining what this discussion actually is, because what we're talking about is partially retention.
because if you talk about just retention on its own

then we are talking about you know people can leave for a million reasons right like yeah as many reasons as there are people there can be reasons to leave and and essentially what you what you talk about with when someone leaves your company Um, there's multiple different things that can happen at that point on, on the far side of the scale, it can be a huge plus for the company.

If someone has been toxic, um, or has been, um, non-productive, which can is toxic and, and, or just the wrong fit for the company.

Um, On the opposite side of the scale, you can lose a key member of your, and potentially the key member other than the owner.

Like it's possible, right? And you, and then they directly go into business and compete against you.

With, and if they were your key member, chances are their competency is going to be pretty high.

And so what you have then is you go from, you take a major loss in your own company, as well as then are confronted with a potential competitor that could make a difference to your market share.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, in particular to the, I mean, retention is a big part of this topic.
And I think once we really dive into the retention side of things, that's where there's just so much that goes into that.
That's where it turns into a whole series.
But particularly because I've had some experience of this with my company, but I've also been worked for other companies in the past.
And I have good friends who have contracting companies where they're And just to be frank, it's super upsetting to me, but I understand this is probably part of my values.
Sure.
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