Sep 23, 2026 · 33 min · 8 segments
Self-care for nurses and caregivers has become a buzzword. But what does it look like when healthcare organizations make it part of the culture? In this episode of Foresight Radio, holistic nurse and…
Rachel HillHost
Tammy Drummond RowlandGuest
Well, there's so much you, you brought up there that, that I wanna, I wanna dissect.
the first thing is, what's so amazing to me is how, uh, expansive your career is.
Like, you've dabbled in a little bit of everything within the realm of nursing, and I'm so curious.
You know, obviously very different environments, but is there any sort of common thread that you could kind of pull on there, whether it was, you know, just what you were seeing particularly, like, in, i- w- underlying things with patients? Maybe it was really anxiety that was bothering one of your students or a patient rather than an actual physical ailment.
Or even patterns in yourself or your coworkers that you were kind of feeling throughout job stress that maybe wasn't dealt with, um, or even the culture aspect as well, 'cause I know you are so well-versed in that.
I think the biggest thing, and, uh, you have to understand this is my opinion only, so I mean, I've done a lot of research, don't get me wrong.
... and I'm, I'm gonna use that word largely, but the biggest obstacle for taking care of our nurses-
... is as, as a general rule, regardless of where it is, health department, school nursing, a hospital, emergency room, nursing management, we tend to recognize those people who go above and beyond, those who sacrifice everything, those who put forth, those who work harder, those who do all the overtime.
And they forget that all these other people over here are getting burnt out, too.
You know, they took a charge nurse assignment that day and did a hell of a job.
But we only recognize those that seem to work themselves to death, and then they quit because they're burnt out.
So we're not, we are not recognizing those tiny little things that happen on a daily basis that should be recognized.
Well, there's so much you, you brought up there that, that I wanna, I wanna dissect.
the first thing is, what's so amazing to me is how, uh, expansive your career is.
Like, you've dabbled in a little bit of everything within the realm of nursing, and I'm so curious.
You know, obviously very different environments, but is there any sort of common thread that you could kind of pull on there, whether it was, you know, just what you were seeing particularly, like, in, i- w- underlying things with patients? Maybe it was really anxiety that was bothering one of your students or a patient rather than an actual physical ailment.
Or even patterns in yourself or your coworkers that you were kind of feeling throughout job stress that maybe wasn't dealt with, um, or even the culture aspect as well, 'cause I know you are so well-versed in that.
I think the biggest thing, and, uh, you have to understand this is my opinion only, so I mean, I've done a lot of research, don't get me wrong.
... and I'm, I'm gonna use that word largely, but the biggest obstacle for taking care of our nurses-
... is as, as a general rule, regardless of where it is, health department, school nursing, a hospital, emergency room, nursing management, we tend to recognize those people who go above and beyond, those who sacrifice everything, those who put forth, those who work harder, those who do all the overtime.
And they forget that all these other people over here are getting burnt out, too.
You know, they took a charge nurse assignment that day and did a hell of a job.
But we only recognize those that seem to work themselves to death, and then they quit because they're burnt out.
So we're not, we are not recognizing those tiny little things that happen on a daily basis that should be recognized.
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