Jul 31, 2026 · 0 min · 10 segments
Recorded live at FIRSTCON26 in Denver, Colorado, this episode of FIRST Impressions features an interview with John Hollenberger of Fortinet to discuss his FIRSTCON26 presentation on ChaosStack, a…
John HollenbergerGuest
Martin McKayHost
Chris John RileyHost
And we can learn how the team works together while under that stressful scenario, as opposed to learning that during a real crisis.
Now, do you keep adding additional layers throughout the whole exercise, or are you kind of getting that front loading going and then letting them catch up? Yeah,
So really front loading every five to 10 minutes, having three to four injects.
So, you know, minute five is inject, or minute zero is inject one, five to ten minutes later is inject two, five to ten minutes later is inject three, maybe inject four after that, but then letting the team talk through and discuss the scenario.
We're overwhelming the mind with lots of information, lots of decisions need to be made, and the team really just needs to prioritize how they're going to handle that after all that chaos up front.
And we can learn how the team works together while under that stressful scenario, as opposed to learning that during a real crisis.
Now, do you keep adding additional layers throughout the whole exercise, or are you kind of getting that front loading going and then letting them catch up? Yeah,
So really front loading every five to 10 minutes, having three to four injects.
So, you know, minute five is inject, or minute zero is inject one, five to ten minutes later is inject two, five to ten minutes later is inject three, maybe inject four after that, but then letting the team talk through and discuss the scenario.
We're overwhelming the mind with lots of information, lots of decisions need to be made, and the team really just needs to prioritize how they're going to handle that after all that chaos up front.
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