Jun 22, 2026 · 49 min · 10 segments
In this America 250 special edition of Marks on the Market, Richard Cunningham and Luke Roush sit down with Donna Harris — founder and CEO of Builders and Backers, venture investor, and co-author of…
Richard CunninghamHost
Luke RoushHostI mean, the numbers kind of tell the story only one in about 10,000 startups ever sees a dollar of venture capital.
So when you travel around the country and you go from city to city and ecosystems, you see pitch competitions, you hear about programs that are teaching founders to raise money, and those are good things, but they're not really targeting the other 9,999. entrepreneurs who, by the way, aren't lesser entrepreneurs.
So I think it has been a very valuable tool for funding world changing companies for sure.
I also don't think people realize how much venture capital invests in companies that are already getting traction.
Not necessarily that like cowboy with an idea stage company, right? Increasingly, venture capital is coming in once some of that risk has been proven out.
So it's really... more of a financing scale tool increasingly today than it is a financing that early stage experimentation.
And I do think just critically, one area where I am skeptical is how much the vehicle is kind of leaned towards extraction.
I think there's a lot that is sort of when you have a mandate to maximize your return, the default behavior becomes growth at all cost.
And if you aren't proactively pushing against the default, then that can create some unintended negative consequences that we do see and you do hear about when people are posting some of their negative views about venture capital.

Your comments, Donna, make me actually think of, there's a great article written maybe six or seven years ago on, hey, venture capital is a little bit like jet fuel.

And if you're trying to build a jet, it's a great thing to have and you're gonna need it.

But a lot of people are building other things that are not as conducive to the type of outcomes that venture capital is looking to have to be able to make their model work.

And so, I think it's actually, And I feel like there's maybe more sobriety now than there was five or 10 years ago, where it was this sort of Pandora's box of excitement and opportunity in venture capital.

And now people are becoming more accustomed to this idea that, hey, not every company really should be raising venture capital because the outcomes that are pushed for by those investors are very much driven by power law dynamics, which is just more, more, more risk.
I mean, the numbers kind of tell the story only one in about 10,000 startups ever sees a dollar of venture capital.
So when you travel around the country and you go from city to city and ecosystems, you see pitch competitions, you hear about programs that are teaching founders to raise money, and those are good things, but they're not really targeting the other 9,999. entrepreneurs who, by the way, aren't lesser entrepreneurs.
So I think it has been a very valuable tool for funding world changing companies for sure.
I also don't think people realize how much venture capital invests in companies that are already getting traction.
Not necessarily that like cowboy with an idea stage company, right? Increasingly, venture capital is coming in once some of that risk has been proven out.
So it's really... more of a financing scale tool increasingly today than it is a financing that early stage experimentation.
And I do think just critically, one area where I am skeptical is how much the vehicle is kind of leaned towards extraction.
I think there's a lot that is sort of when you have a mandate to maximize your return, the default behavior becomes growth at all cost.
And if you aren't proactively pushing against the default, then that can create some unintended negative consequences that we do see and you do hear about when people are posting some of their negative views about venture capital.

Your comments, Donna, make me actually think of, there's a great article written maybe six or seven years ago on, hey, venture capital is a little bit like jet fuel.

And if you're trying to build a jet, it's a great thing to have and you're gonna need it.

But a lot of people are building other things that are not as conducive to the type of outcomes that venture capital is looking to have to be able to make their model work.

And so, I think it's actually, And I feel like there's maybe more sobriety now than there was five or 10 years ago, where it was this sort of Pandora's box of excitement and opportunity in venture capital.

And now people are becoming more accustomed to this idea that, hey, not every company really should be raising venture capital because the outcomes that are pushed for by those investors are very much driven by power law dynamics, which is just more, more, more risk.
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