Oct 11, 2026 · 3 min · 3 segments
It's thought young people need to master basic life skills, before making decisions about their futures. National wants to require students to stay in school until they complete Year 11, unless an…
Brendon CromptonGuest
Mike HoskingHost
And often we work with kids that I think they know all, but we're talking about basic English and maths qualification, the stuff that you need to write an email to do a CV, to do budgeting.
obviously difficult for kids who definitely want to disengage, makes it a bit harder, but certainly empowers parents as well to say to kids, hey, you need to stay, finish the year, get a qualification, and if you want to get into a trade or a course, you need NCA Level 1 anyway.
We run programmes in the community where kids have disengaged, and the first thing that we do is get them NCA Level 1, so even though they're disengaged, the first stepping stone in a community-based course for disengaged young people is NCA Level 1, and that's what we're, essentially our funders judge us on, so They're only sort of delaying the inevitable.
Have you got two different groups? Group one, they're heading off to something, no matter what that may be, versus the ones that just simply don't want to be there? Or are they all part of the same group?
So that means that if a young person had a course or had employment, they can fill in a form.
It's a pretty basic thing you can do, and you apply for exemption, and you can still leave early.
So that hasn't changed what they're trying to capture, the ones who are just leaving for the sake of leaving.
Yeah, the problem is at that point, and I know people who have been through it, how do you tell, especially a male, a young male 15 to 16-year-old who will not get out of bed, doesn't want to go to school, that they need to because it will all make sense in the end because they don't want to hear that?
Well, it's very difficult, and I think the next stepping stone of this is we do have a thing called alternate education, a program that we run, and you have obviously charter schools where There, there is, there is certainly a need for a different way of doing education with some young people.
And often we work with kids that I think they know all, but we're talking about basic English and maths qualification, the stuff that you need to write an email to do a CV, to do budgeting.
obviously difficult for kids who definitely want to disengage, makes it a bit harder, but certainly empowers parents as well to say to kids, hey, you need to stay, finish the year, get a qualification, and if you want to get into a trade or a course, you need NCA Level 1 anyway.
We run programmes in the community where kids have disengaged, and the first thing that we do is get them NCA Level 1, so even though they're disengaged, the first stepping stone in a community-based course for disengaged young people is NCA Level 1, and that's what we're, essentially our funders judge us on, so They're only sort of delaying the inevitable.
Have you got two different groups? Group one, they're heading off to something, no matter what that may be, versus the ones that just simply don't want to be there? Or are they all part of the same group?
So that means that if a young person had a course or had employment, they can fill in a form.
It's a pretty basic thing you can do, and you apply for exemption, and you can still leave early.
So that hasn't changed what they're trying to capture, the ones who are just leaving for the sake of leaving.
Yeah, the problem is at that point, and I know people who have been through it, how do you tell, especially a male, a young male 15 to 16-year-old who will not get out of bed, doesn't want to go to school, that they need to because it will all make sense in the end because they don't want to hear that?
Well, it's very difficult, and I think the next stepping stone of this is we do have a thing called alternate education, a program that we run, and you have obviously charter schools where There, there is, there is certainly a need for a different way of doing education with some young people.
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