Jun 10, 2026 · 26 min · 11 segments
Most venture-backed cybersecurity companies are doomed from the start. The math is rigged so only 5-10% of startups survive—and they have to return hundreds of millions, or even billions, to satisfy…
Chase CunninghamHost
In 2021, a former four-star general and the ex-director of the NSA took a cybersecurity company public at $3 billion of valuation.

The NSA had quietly told insiders all across the Beltway that the product wasn't, quote, credible.

And the founder, the general, admitted to Bloomberg that he'd been, quote, naive about the business world.

Three years later, Fortinet bought what was left for somewhere between $2 and $230 million.

They raised $1.8 billion over the company's life and exited for roughly 10 cents on the dollar.

And today I'm going to walk you through what the math and the receipts say and why the venture capital structure that funds this entire industry is the reason that we can't stop modern threat actors.

In 2021, a former four-star general and the ex-director of the NSA took a cybersecurity company public at $3 billion of valuation.

The NSA had quietly told insiders all across the Beltway that the product wasn't, quote, credible.

And the founder, the general, admitted to Bloomberg that he'd been, quote, naive about the business world.

Three years later, Fortinet bought what was left for somewhere between $2 and $230 million.

They raised $1.8 billion over the company's life and exited for roughly 10 cents on the dollar.

And today I'm going to walk you through what the math and the receipts say and why the venture capital structure that funds this entire industry is the reason that we can't stop modern threat actors.
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