Ask us Anything 1st July

Yeah, so I think my first thing with goals and needs is the need to understand the difference between the two in that, you know, in its most basic form, a goal is what somebody wants to get out of the lesson.

The need is what needs to happen, what needs to develop in order for them to succeed.

to achieve it.

Um, and then how that helps us, um, is that said the needs of the bit that we're working on the needs of the bit that we're supporting them with.

And so, you know, if, if your goal is, um, just something as, as, uh, as big as, as a junction, a, you know, we're going to do roundabouts, um, That gives you, you know, you're fighting an uphill battle if that's your part three and you're going in with roundabouts as a goal and there's no supporting needs to develop.

So goals can be as broad as I just want to be really good at doing roundabouts by the end of today.

That's fine as far as I'm concerned, but it's what needs to happen in order for that to be the case.

Yeah.

We work needs around what are called learning domains.

So the fact that everything we do in life is a result of three active domains, psychomotor, cognitive and affective, and psychomotor being skills development and control, cognitive being knowledge, understanding, thought processes, uh opinions and um effective being our emotional state uh and the fact that everything we do in life is a mixture and a combination and when you impact on one of those you typically impact on the others positively or negatively so um when we look at needs sorry yeah

so i've said a That's a long time ago.

That takes me back.

I just want to go back to something you said about goals.

Goals can be a broad goal.

Can they be more specific?

I think they should.

But I think...

If you understand the difference between goals and needs, then when you start to get into the needs of the pupil, then you're becoming specific.

And I think it's important that people understand that because, you know, people could interpret a specific goal as being right turns at roundabouts.

Right.

But actually, the need of the pupil, what needs to happen for them to be really good at doing right turns at roundabouts? Is it a skill issue? Is it a knowledge issue? Is it something about their understanding? Is it something about their, you know, anticipation, ability to judge? Is it something that happens to them within them? um as they're coming towards the roundabouts is it a change in thought processes the way they feel etc what is it specifically that needs to develop so i don't mind goals being broad as long as he's understanding that the goal isn't what you're working it's the needs that you're working

yeah and i often you know think about this um as we're using all of our senses to listening to them we're using our sense of feel uh we're using our sense of smell i'm not going to ask you what you're going to smell uh um or just be careful before you answer that and and if we really are tuned in to what the driver's doing and the area's doing the need will become very apparent won't it and then from that And this is where I think that we've missed a trick in the industry.

Once we've identified the need, then we can start a mini goal, chunking down a mini goal.

And that then becomes the goal.

And that's where it becomes very specific.