Jun 29, 2026 · 53 min · 20 segments
Before someone decides to divorce, there is often a sacred and painful question sitting beneath the surface: Have I done everything I can? In this episode of *Dishing on Divorce*, we are joined by…
Chavonne PerotteGuest
Deanna CoyleHost
Mandy PullanHost
In our concierge calls, we start with, what have you done to save your marriage? Because we do believe it's important to exhaust all possible avenues before going down the road of divorce.

We have the resources for our community when they're just, they're not sure, and they don't necessarily want divorce, but they're not really sure what else to do.

Really important juncture, so I'm really excited to have this conversation.

I was listening in and helping with our Pasadena webinar on f- last Friday, and one of our professionals, been with us since we started, Glen Crawford, he's amazing.

He's a CDFA financial advisor, and he said something on the webinar that I say a lot in conversations and we talk a lot about.

It's not like we're advocating for people to get divorced, right? 'Cause sometimes people are like, "Oh, well, with what you do, you know, marriages should be intact." And what our philosophy is, if somebody's in a marriage, like, where they're not happy and they're not thinking that they're modeling the right behavior for their children in terms of the relationship that they will have when they grow up, what can they do to get to a better place? And so we always ask what people have done, marriage counseling, and usually people will say, "Oh, yes, we've tried it for a long time," or, "My spouse has no interest, doesn't believe in therapy, or thinks it's all my issue." So it does require two people to cooperate, and I think when somebody tries those different avenues, they can then move forward knowing that they tried.

And what we always like to start off with is what brought you to this work? What makes you passionate about it?

In our concierge calls, we start with, what have you done to save your marriage? Because we do believe it's important to exhaust all possible avenues before going down the road of divorce.

We have the resources for our community when they're just, they're not sure, and they don't necessarily want divorce, but they're not really sure what else to do.

Really important juncture, so I'm really excited to have this conversation.

I was listening in and helping with our Pasadena webinar on f- last Friday, and one of our professionals, been with us since we started, Glen Crawford, he's amazing.

He's a CDFA financial advisor, and he said something on the webinar that I say a lot in conversations and we talk a lot about.

It's not like we're advocating for people to get divorced, right? 'Cause sometimes people are like, "Oh, well, with what you do, you know, marriages should be intact." And what our philosophy is, if somebody's in a marriage, like, where they're not happy and they're not thinking that they're modeling the right behavior for their children in terms of the relationship that they will have when they grow up, what can they do to get to a better place? And so we always ask what people have done, marriage counseling, and usually people will say, "Oh, yes, we've tried it for a long time," or, "My spouse has no interest, doesn't believe in therapy, or thinks it's all my issue." So it does require two people to cooperate, and I think when somebody tries those different avenues, they can then move forward knowing that they tried.

And what we always like to start off with is what brought you to this work? What makes you passionate about it?
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