UAP, Disclosure & The Phenomenon w/ Will Holland

I

had no idea CE5 stood for, actually, Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind.

I think we better define the fifth kind.

Let me bring that up really quick.

I want to remind listeners that we had Jordan Jozak on the podcast.

This was

last year

sometime.

And Jordan did a lot of the CE5.

So we talked about that in that episode, if anybody feels inclined to go back and listen to that episode.

Yeah, so I think this is a cool time.

Maybe just for the layperson, we can identify a couple of terms.

Yeah, let's do it.

So we'll start with the CE5, 1 through 5.

So CE1 is Close Encounters of the First Kind.

That's a close visual sighting, usually of a craft of some kind.

People now kind of include orbs or plasma entities often you'll see in this space now.

That would be kind of considered CE1.

CE2 is like that same kind of sighting, but then you see the physical world around you being affected.

Like in certain books, like I've been reading and I just finished like James Likatsky's four book series.

Here's the first one, Skinwalkers at the Pentagon.

And they talk a lot about this physical evidence, like oftentimes like the ground itself is scooped up and disappeared or animals are affected, trees are affected, people's skins affected.

So that's CE2.

CE3 is encounters involving a non-human intelligence.

So NHI, you'll hear a lot these days, which stands for non-human intelligence, which is just kind of the new term for alien, you know.