stories or anything that you feel like is worth double clicking on when it comes to the conversations that you've had with people who have actually gone through a very real experience like this?

Totally.

Yeah.

What's been such like a blessing has been my own little personal journey and sitting down with folks like on top of kind of laying out and understanding the big data points that come from experiencers.

Like as we talk about this, this is definitely my favorite section because It kind of gets more woo, which is true, but it kind of just gets more into like human accounts that are telling us about this thing that we just hypothesize for an hour.

Now it's like, cool, what are people literally seeing? What have people literally experienced? So, you know, my two favorite types of experiencers are one are military whistleblowers because all they are are experiencers.

They just happen to be in that setting.

Wow.

Talk to us about that.

Okay.

I mean, I think what you're seeing is like an internal battle, like coming frothing to the front.

You know, there's like really clear forward examples.

One example is a whistleblower named Matthew Brown that came out last year.

Big fan of Matthew Brown.

Love to you.

what do you make then of the recent disclosures? You know, because stuff has been disclosed intentionally, right?