#306 From the Spire to the Heart: Grant Howitt Interview
Jul 6, 2026 · 1 hr 4 min · 11 segments
Chris, David and Crystal interview Grant Howitt of Rowan, Rook, and Decard, about his work and the games Spire and Heart. Check us out on Facebook or…
Jul 6, 2026 · 1 hr 4 min · 11 segments
Chris, David and Crystal interview Grant Howitt of Rowan, Rook, and Decard, about his work and the games Spire and Heart. Check us out on Facebook or…
Grant HowittGuestChrisHostDavidHostCrystalHostAnd I guess, I guess-
...
there must be a good element to this 'cause it's how far will you dive into this infinite dungeon to find something you want.
And-
Could be a good fuck, yeah.
[laughs]
I will say as well, like, um, we, we- I don't think I hit the mark in "Spire," but in "Heart" we tr- we, and in our latter games as well, we try so hard not to be edgy.
[laughs]
Yeah
And the newer edition's less edgy than the older edition, but you can still shave with it.
[laughs] Yeah.
Like, I think there's a power in "Spire," um, for the masked, um, which is you cut off someone's face, make it into a mask, and then when you put it on, people think you're that person, but they have to be alive in your basement.
[laughs]
And, and it's just like, it's like, um, I mean, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's an exciting idea and it's the, and it, it presents an interesting challenge, but also bringing that up at the table.
And I guess, I guess-
...
there must be a good element to this 'cause it's how far will you dive into this infinite dungeon to find something you want.
And-
Could be a good fuck, yeah.
[laughs]
I will say as well, like, um, we, we- I don't think I hit the mark in "Spire," but in "Heart" we tr- we, and in our latter games as well, we try so hard not to be edgy.
[laughs]
Yeah
And the newer edition's less edgy than the older edition, but you can still shave with it.
[laughs] Yeah.
Like, I think there's a power in "Spire," um, for the masked, um, which is you cut off someone's face, make it into a mask, and then when you put it on, people think you're that person, but they have to be alive in your basement.
[laughs]
And, and it's just like, it's like, um, I mean, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's an exciting idea and it's the, and it, it presents an interesting challenge, but also bringing that up at the table.
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