Oct 29, 2026 · 55 min · 9 segments
Debbie talks us through her research on the mechanics of individual change – habits, triggers, motivation. Bee contrasts this with what she's read about changing group behaviour – social norms…
Can't wait to do the comparison of individual versus group change to see if there's overlap, if there are different techniques.
So I'm kind of hoping that we can, you can help me process it out loud in real time and make the kind of comparisons about how would that translate into an organisation environment.
So there's just so much research on how to help people make healthy choices, whether it's giving up smoking or you know, improving their diet or taking more exercise, whatever, that tends to be the setting of a lot of this research.
And again, they They were making parallels between kind of healthy choices and work, but they talked about a process model of behaviour change with four steps, situation, attention, appraisal and response.
Now, the context that they gave was you arrive at work, you arrive in an office lobby and There's a lift and there are stairs.
How do we change behaviour to encourage people to make the healthy choice of climbing the stairs? So the situation is you're in the office lobby.
Your attention then is what do you notice? What do you focus on? So do you look to the stairs or look to the elevator? And obviously there are environmental things that can be done to help draw attention to one of those.
So how do you kind of interpret those two options? So which you want to take and the reasons for.
So I want to arrive at my desk and not be sweaty from having climbed six stairs.
Can't wait to do the comparison of individual versus group change to see if there's overlap, if there are different techniques.
So I'm kind of hoping that we can, you can help me process it out loud in real time and make the kind of comparisons about how would that translate into an organisation environment.
So there's just so much research on how to help people make healthy choices, whether it's giving up smoking or you know, improving their diet or taking more exercise, whatever, that tends to be the setting of a lot of this research.
And again, they They were making parallels between kind of healthy choices and work, but they talked about a process model of behaviour change with four steps, situation, attention, appraisal and response.
Now, the context that they gave was you arrive at work, you arrive in an office lobby and There's a lift and there are stairs.
How do we change behaviour to encourage people to make the healthy choice of climbing the stairs? So the situation is you're in the office lobby.
Your attention then is what do you notice? What do you focus on? So do you look to the stairs or look to the elevator? And obviously there are environmental things that can be done to help draw attention to one of those.
So how do you kind of interpret those two options? So which you want to take and the reasons for.
So I want to arrive at my desk and not be sweaty from having climbed six stairs.
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