Jun 17, 2026 · 37 min · 9 segments
Nick and Bailey met because of surrogacy. They never expected to become family. In this special Father's Day conversation, intended father Nick and surrogate spouse Bailey share how trust…
Whitney HallHostThe reason I brought it up is because I think we focus a lot on the, you know, Nikki Bailey, what's your back and forth, right? How are you interacting with each other? But I think we also take honest, because we are, we don't know awkwardness and everything else.
We take honest looks in the mirror at ourselves, which enables us to be able to honestly look at each other.
We are being honest to each other.
introspectively, then outwardly that makes it much harder to be able to get along with people, be able to get past certain things, have real conversations about real things.
So I just bring that up because if somebody's watching this and
they're
like, man, I want to have an awesome relationship with the person across from me, I don't want this to just be transactional.
you better be able to take a good look in the mirror because some actions you may be doing may be transactional, even though you're not intended that way because you're not recognizing some of the selfish things you may be doing because you're just not looking
Continuing to go with just these amazing words of advice, sitting in the seats that y'all are in now, what, wisdom or just nuggets would you give to any intended dad surrogate spouse
always
like whatever is going on whether you know which side of this you're on what she's going through is harder than you
are off the mat
Um, and then after that, take your feelings out of it.
And I was like, what's that book? I don't know.
It's about feelings and crap.
And I thought that was the funniest.
The reason I brought it up is because I think we focus a lot on the, you know, Nikki Bailey, what's your back and forth, right? How are you interacting with each other? But I think we also take honest, because we are, we don't know awkwardness and everything else.
We take honest looks in the mirror at ourselves, which enables us to be able to honestly look at each other.
We are being honest to each other.
introspectively, then outwardly that makes it much harder to be able to get along with people, be able to get past certain things, have real conversations about real things.
So I just bring that up because if somebody's watching this and
they're
like, man, I want to have an awesome relationship with the person across from me, I don't want this to just be transactional.
you better be able to take a good look in the mirror because some actions you may be doing may be transactional, even though you're not intended that way because you're not recognizing some of the selfish things you may be doing because you're just not looking
Continuing to go with just these amazing words of advice, sitting in the seats that y'all are in now, what, wisdom or just nuggets would you give to any intended dad surrogate spouse
always
like whatever is going on whether you know which side of this you're on what she's going through is harder than you
are off the mat
Um, and then after that, take your feelings out of it.
And I was like, what's that book? I don't know.
It's about feelings and crap.
And I thought that was the funniest.
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