Conversations: Health & Resilience
Jun 22, 2026 · 52 min · 12 segments
James O'Loghlin had only just reconnected with one of his best and oldest friends, Jum Wallner, when Jum received some terrible news. What began next was a high stakes race with a fatal deadline. The…
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James O'LoughlinGuestRichard FidlerHostThe Mr. Fluffy controversy, if that's what I can call it, or scandal controversy.
I remember when that, I was paying attention to it because I lived in Canberra for a while and did my uni years there.
People who've not lived in Canberra are not fond of it, but people who do have this lifelong affection for it by and large.
Can you just explain what the Mr. Fluffy controversy was and what it meant to a city like Canberra?
So the late 1960s and 1970s, the Mr. Fluffy Company could loose fill fluffy insulation, the most dangerous kind, into the roofs of around 1,000 Canberra homes.
In the Walners' house, it was a two-day job and they left a pile of it in their garage overnight on a tarp.
Of course they would, wouldn't you? If you were a seven-year-old boy, Jum was three, he was the youngest, maybe he got hit with the most snowballs.
For the next 20 years, Jum's mum had to put tape L-foil to the vent in the kitchen because the little wisps of it would fall in.
The Mr. Fluffy controversy, if that's what I can call it, or scandal controversy.
I remember when that, I was paying attention to it because I lived in Canberra for a while and did my uni years there.
People who've not lived in Canberra are not fond of it, but people who do have this lifelong affection for it by and large.
Can you just explain what the Mr. Fluffy controversy was and what it meant to a city like Canberra?
So the late 1960s and 1970s, the Mr. Fluffy Company could loose fill fluffy insulation, the most dangerous kind, into the roofs of around 1,000 Canberra homes.
In the Walners' house, it was a two-day job and they left a pile of it in their garage overnight on a tarp.
Of course they would, wouldn't you? If you were a seven-year-old boy, Jum was three, he was the youngest, maybe he got hit with the most snowballs.
For the next 20 years, Jum's mum had to put tape L-foil to the vent in the kitchen because the little wisps of it would fall in.
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