Sep 25, 2026 · 36 min · 11 segments
We all see the world through a particular lens. Our experiences, values, beliefs, upbringing, personality and assumptions shape the way we interpret what happens around us. The challenge for leaders…
Rich HortonHost
Dave MorrisHost
So, Rich, in this first section of this podcast today, which we've called We Don't See the World As It Is, you've often said that we don't simply see reality.

Yeah, so I think a lot of people make the mistake that they think they have unmediated access to reality, so to speak.

So we filter reality through a set of filters that includes things like our thinking preferences, our personality sort of preferences, our values.

the culture that shapes our perception, our family upbringing shapes our perception.

And even as we go through life, when we make different friends, we engage in different teams, we engage in different organizations, all of those subtly shape our perception and affect how we interpret reality.

And this shows itself when you see two people experiencing the same event, but they arrive at very different conclusions.

I remember I went to a concert with a mate of mine to one of my favorite bands and he likes the band as well.

And we literally stood side by side in the same concert venue, heard the same band.

And then he started to pick holes in the performance of, I can't remember what the details were now.

But it's interesting that for him, the sorts of things that made the concert disappointing were, were not something that affected my enjoyment of the same event.

So two very different perspectives, two different value sets in terms of our relationship to this band, to music, for example.

So imagine a change initiative, perhaps, that you're trying to introduce inside your business.

Now, if you're a leader of that and leading the change, often leaders, if they're leading a change initiative, they'll see the opportunity, they'll see the vision, and they'll come at that change initiative probably with a high degree of excitement.

Whereas actually the people on the receiving end of the change inside the organization might not see necessarily the opportunity.

They might hear the words and see the logic behind that, but probably they'll see the risk to them, to their job, to their security.

So, Rich, in this first section of this podcast today, which we've called We Don't See the World As It Is, you've often said that we don't simply see reality.

Yeah, so I think a lot of people make the mistake that they think they have unmediated access to reality, so to speak.

So we filter reality through a set of filters that includes things like our thinking preferences, our personality sort of preferences, our values.

the culture that shapes our perception, our family upbringing shapes our perception.

And even as we go through life, when we make different friends, we engage in different teams, we engage in different organizations, all of those subtly shape our perception and affect how we interpret reality.

And this shows itself when you see two people experiencing the same event, but they arrive at very different conclusions.

I remember I went to a concert with a mate of mine to one of my favorite bands and he likes the band as well.

And we literally stood side by side in the same concert venue, heard the same band.

And then he started to pick holes in the performance of, I can't remember what the details were now.

But it's interesting that for him, the sorts of things that made the concert disappointing were, were not something that affected my enjoyment of the same event.

So two very different perspectives, two different value sets in terms of our relationship to this band, to music, for example.

So imagine a change initiative, perhaps, that you're trying to introduce inside your business.

Now, if you're a leader of that and leading the change, often leaders, if they're leading a change initiative, they'll see the opportunity, they'll see the vision, and they'll come at that change initiative probably with a high degree of excitement.

Whereas actually the people on the receiving end of the change inside the organization might not see necessarily the opportunity.

They might hear the words and see the logic behind that, but probably they'll see the risk to them, to their job, to their security.
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