Taylor ReedGuestBut it, it seems like from my outside, it's probably different when you've been in it, but climbing is, is growing.
Is, um, is it the same? Like from your perspective, does it seem like climbing is j- just on the rise?

Um, being that I've had, like such a long experience, the over, over time, I would say absolutely yes.

Like, I mean, there, there like I can think back of when I first started and, and what climbing was like then versus now, um, and the extent to which, uh, you hear about certain things like you go out to an outdoor area and it's just you.

Now you go to the same outdoor area and there's a sea of crash pads everywhere, you know, as, as people like just, you know, just tons of people go outside.

So, um, you know, we've s- we've had some, uh, you know, some, uh, some issues there in terms of just the overall amount of individuals.

Um, some, you know, even when I started, there were, there were still gym climbers, uh, you know, or there were gym climbers.

Um, you know, I think when the first Olympics came around, uh, there were, uh, there was an interesting change because it, uh, the climbers in the Olympics had to do all th- all three disciplines, um, rope climbing, bouldering, and speed climbing.

So for a second there, there was a, you know, the, there were a lot of individuals interested in more than just one discipline, and now we've probably seen a little bit of a return or a little bit of a shift again towards, uh, towards people specializing in one discipline or, or at most two.

Um, so, uh, yeah, there's definitely been some changes, uh, other changes as well.

I'm, I'm sure, I'm sure there's been a billion changes, but I don't have the data in front of me right now, so [laughs]
A- and I guess for, you know, a lot of our audience will be volleyball people and volleyball coaches who may have never climbed before, so what would be your best pitch? And maybe you don't wanna do a pitch 'cause the, the gyms are getting crowded and the-
But it, it seems like from my outside, it's probably different when you've been in it, but climbing is, is growing.
Is, um, is it the same? Like from your perspective, does it seem like climbing is j- just on the rise?

Um, being that I've had, like such a long experience, the over, over time, I would say absolutely yes.

Like, I mean, there, there like I can think back of when I first started and, and what climbing was like then versus now, um, and the extent to which, uh, you hear about certain things like you go out to an outdoor area and it's just you.

Now you go to the same outdoor area and there's a sea of crash pads everywhere, you know, as, as people like just, you know, just tons of people go outside.

So, um, you know, we've s- we've had some, uh, you know, some, uh, some issues there in terms of just the overall amount of individuals.

Um, some, you know, even when I started, there were, there were still gym climbers, uh, you know, or there were gym climbers.

Um, you know, I think when the first Olympics came around, uh, there were, uh, there was an interesting change because it, uh, the climbers in the Olympics had to do all th- all three disciplines, um, rope climbing, bouldering, and speed climbing.

So for a second there, there was a, you know, the, there were a lot of individuals interested in more than just one discipline, and now we've probably seen a little bit of a return or a little bit of a shift again towards, uh, towards people specializing in one discipline or, or at most two.

Um, so, uh, yeah, there's definitely been some changes, uh, other changes as well.

I'm, I'm sure, I'm sure there's been a billion changes, but I don't have the data in front of me right now, so [laughs]
A- and I guess for, you know, a lot of our audience will be volleyball people and volleyball coaches who may have never climbed before, so what would be your best pitch? And maybe you don't wanna do a pitch 'cause the, the gyms are getting crowded and the-
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