Jun 17, 2026 · 55 min · 15 segments
You became a coach because you're great with people. Craig Fortune says that's not enough, and he learned it the hard way. Craig is an executive and productivity coach and the founder of ProMind…
Craig FortuneGuest
David ChungHost
No, I think it's, I mean, it's very important, right? Because, well, one, that's really surprising that the number is so high, the burnout number in New Zealand is so high.

That's actually kind of scary because that means like every other person you see.

And this is recent data, recent research from an EAP employment assistant program provider called SONDA, which is based in Australia, but it has a presence here in New Zealand as well.

So this Australasian data, 51% of people in the last 12 months and the 12 months prior to this body of research, which only came out about 12 months ago, 51% of people said in the previous 12 months they had identified as being burnt out.

I'm still just reeling at that number because that's every other person you meet has just burned

That is frightening because I know during COVID, I was burning out, right? Just because the stress of work, not being able to travel, all of that stuff.

I actually have kind of actively decided to try to put as much of those work years into a box and just put it away.

Yeah, it was an extremely difficult time, I think, for so many different reasons, right? So the last data is the last 12 months.

if we look too at the stats, the worldwide stats post-COVID, the burnout and exhaustion rates, and they are very different, those two things are very different, just skyrocketed.

And if we have a look at, and I haven't actually done the correlation in terms of facts and figures, but Straight after COVID, there was a huge amount of people working from home, right? That was the push.

No, I think it's, I mean, it's very important, right? Because, well, one, that's really surprising that the number is so high, the burnout number in New Zealand is so high.

That's actually kind of scary because that means like every other person you see.

And this is recent data, recent research from an EAP employment assistant program provider called SONDA, which is based in Australia, but it has a presence here in New Zealand as well.

So this Australasian data, 51% of people in the last 12 months and the 12 months prior to this body of research, which only came out about 12 months ago, 51% of people said in the previous 12 months they had identified as being burnt out.

I'm still just reeling at that number because that's every other person you meet has just burned

That is frightening because I know during COVID, I was burning out, right? Just because the stress of work, not being able to travel, all of that stuff.

I actually have kind of actively decided to try to put as much of those work years into a box and just put it away.

Yeah, it was an extremely difficult time, I think, for so many different reasons, right? So the last data is the last 12 months.

if we look too at the stats, the worldwide stats post-COVID, the burnout and exhaustion rates, and they are very different, those two things are very different, just skyrocketed.

And if we have a look at, and I haven't actually done the correlation in terms of facts and figures, but Straight after COVID, there was a huge amount of people working from home, right? That was the push.
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