Close the Chapter Podcast with Kristen Boice
Sep 9, 2026 · 41 min · 11 segments
In this episode, Kristen sits down with author and creative guide Jacob Nordby to explore how creativity can become a pathway to healing, self-discovery, and greater emotional well-being. Together…
Jacob NordbyGuest
Kristen BoiceHost
For those that don't know what that is, can you share that? I know what they are, but for the listeners that are like-

If you talk to Julia, she has very specific ideas about what size of paper and all that.

But basically, you're writing for about 10 to 20 minutes every morning, and you start out with...

I have a short process maybe I'll share later that Julia has said, "Yes, that works great for morning pages." But basically, the way that she describes it, Kristen, is we're clearing off the debris on the top of the stream.

It's like, "This is just boring, whiny, barfy drivel." And Julia would say that's exactly what it's supposed to be.

So we're letting ourselves get the gunk out, and then that allows us then to access more of our inner wisdom, more of our actual guidance and grounding.

I think that one of the parts of the block for us in this culture, Kristen, is that most people...

And look, as Julia would say and as I would say now, as children we're all very creative.

And we're not as hung up on whether it's good or whether we can sell it or whatever.

It just is like, no, we naturally draw, we naturally dance and sing and do the things, and imagine.

For those that don't know what that is, can you share that? I know what they are, but for the listeners that are like-

If you talk to Julia, she has very specific ideas about what size of paper and all that.

But basically, you're writing for about 10 to 20 minutes every morning, and you start out with...

I have a short process maybe I'll share later that Julia has said, "Yes, that works great for morning pages." But basically, the way that she describes it, Kristen, is we're clearing off the debris on the top of the stream.

It's like, "This is just boring, whiny, barfy drivel." And Julia would say that's exactly what it's supposed to be.

So we're letting ourselves get the gunk out, and then that allows us then to access more of our inner wisdom, more of our actual guidance and grounding.

I think that one of the parts of the block for us in this culture, Kristen, is that most people...

And look, as Julia would say and as I would say now, as children we're all very creative.

And we're not as hung up on whether it's good or whether we can sell it or whatever.

It just is like, no, we naturally draw, we naturally dance and sing and do the things, and imagine.
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