ChildCare Conversations with Kate and Carrie
Aug 20, 2026 · 26 min · 13 segments
Send us Fan Mail What if the behavior you’re trying to manage isn’t really a child problem—but an environment problem? Kate Woodward Young sits down…
Kate Woodward YoungHost
Carla WardGuestBut with that, one of the things that I love is that All of the directors and owners who are listening to today's podcast, you all have one thing in common, and that is that you have staff probably who are passionate about the industry.
And we have an expert guest to help you today kind of figure out how to talk to your teachers on how to continue to be their best.

I always like to joke that yes is such a powerful word, and partially because if you think about, you know, books like Getting to Yes, Yes Man, like the entire premise, or Yes Day with Jennifer Garner, like those entire movies are basically... mocks of just saying yes all the time because we say no so much.

And partially because it's something I discovered when I was director and supervisor of a center was we were trying to control the children so much that we were getting unnecessary behaviors.

And part of it was it wasn't even necessarily trying to control the human beings themselves.

So one of the first things I did when I started out as director was and my staff lost their minds, but bless them, they trusted me, was I went and took all pre-designed materials out of their classrooms.

If we're going to try something, we have to try it for two weeks because it goes two ways.

Either one, it goes beautifully week one because it's new and it's fancy and then it absolutely falls apart the second week.

Or it's an absolute nightmare the first week and you want to throw in the towel really easily.

And then the third option is, you know, it's beautiful and it all works out tickety-boo.

So the rule of thumb was we're going to take all the pre-designed things out of our programs and we're going to put in blocks.

And they were welcome to after two weeks if they could give me a good reason as to why.
But with that, one of the things that I love is that All of the directors and owners who are listening to today's podcast, you all have one thing in common, and that is that you have staff probably who are passionate about the industry.
And we have an expert guest to help you today kind of figure out how to talk to your teachers on how to continue to be their best.

I always like to joke that yes is such a powerful word, and partially because if you think about, you know, books like Getting to Yes, Yes Man, like the entire premise, or Yes Day with Jennifer Garner, like those entire movies are basically... mocks of just saying yes all the time because we say no so much.

And partially because it's something I discovered when I was director and supervisor of a center was we were trying to control the children so much that we were getting unnecessary behaviors.

And part of it was it wasn't even necessarily trying to control the human beings themselves.

So one of the first things I did when I started out as director was and my staff lost their minds, but bless them, they trusted me, was I went and took all pre-designed materials out of their classrooms.

If we're going to try something, we have to try it for two weeks because it goes two ways.

Either one, it goes beautifully week one because it's new and it's fancy and then it absolutely falls apart the second week.

Or it's an absolute nightmare the first week and you want to throw in the towel really easily.

And then the third option is, you know, it's beautiful and it all works out tickety-boo.

So the rule of thumb was we're going to take all the pre-designed things out of our programs and we're going to put in blocks.

And they were welcome to after two weeks if they could give me a good reason as to why.
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