Oct 6, 2026 · 21 min · 14 segments
In this episode of the Channel Chat Dubai series, recorded during GISEC Dubai, Marc Sumner is joined by Yarin Pinyan, VP of Product at Upwind Security, for a deep dive into one of the biggest…
Yarin PinyanGuestMarc SumnerHostI'm just sort of thinking, actually, if they're commanding a chatbot, they're fighting against me and I'm not even knowing they're doing it.
we've got no chance yeah i know but you know i always like to i like but i don't like to to kind of give this analogy of we can be in a situation of a black mirror sometime soon on the good side and on the bad side on the good side would be that we'll have you know way more efficiency we'll have way more capabilities we could do things that we're never able to do much faster and and kind of those things but the bad side is if you don't understand how your a applications are being in use and how those a applications could be exploited you would never be able to get to a point where you'd be safe with AI because the speed that AI moves, is immediate, is now, is like milliseconds.
We have time to, you know, processing time and queue time and backlog and schedule tasks and schedule jobs.
So the number one thing that organizations need to understand right now is that if you don't have anything inside your environment that helps you to secure your environment in the speed of machine, in the speed of seconds, then you're not protected and you are vulnerable.
And it's just a matter of time until someone will knock on your door and tell you, this is the list of organizations, this is the list of customers that you have, pay me 500k so I can free this.
If you're not securing your environment in the speed of machine, in the speed of real time, This is a big, big threat right now.
Some leaders are warning that we're moving too fast and we should slow things down.
I think that we should be not worried to move fast, but we should be very cautious when we're moving fast.
If you're about to introduce another layer of cutting-edge technology or... and other enhancements that you're about to do with AI with your services as you're providing services to your customers, ask yourself at any point of time, can I secure it? This is the number one question.
I'm just sort of thinking, actually, if they're commanding a chatbot, they're fighting against me and I'm not even knowing they're doing it.
we've got no chance yeah i know but you know i always like to i like but i don't like to to kind of give this analogy of we can be in a situation of a black mirror sometime soon on the good side and on the bad side on the good side would be that we'll have you know way more efficiency we'll have way more capabilities we could do things that we're never able to do much faster and and kind of those things but the bad side is if you don't understand how your a applications are being in use and how those a applications could be exploited you would never be able to get to a point where you'd be safe with AI because the speed that AI moves, is immediate, is now, is like milliseconds.
We have time to, you know, processing time and queue time and backlog and schedule tasks and schedule jobs.
So the number one thing that organizations need to understand right now is that if you don't have anything inside your environment that helps you to secure your environment in the speed of machine, in the speed of seconds, then you're not protected and you are vulnerable.
And it's just a matter of time until someone will knock on your door and tell you, this is the list of organizations, this is the list of customers that you have, pay me 500k so I can free this.
If you're not securing your environment in the speed of machine, in the speed of real time, This is a big, big threat right now.
Some leaders are warning that we're moving too fast and we should slow things down.
I think that we should be not worried to move fast, but we should be very cautious when we're moving fast.
If you're about to introduce another layer of cutting-edge technology or... and other enhancements that you're about to do with AI with your services as you're providing services to your customers, ask yourself at any point of time, can I secure it? This is the number one question.
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